[Watchmaker's Son]

I think there actually may be a smoking gun that reveals what will happen next year and puts into perspective the events that occurred during the season finale. I've seen it hinted at before in a post, but I didn't see anyone jump to the conclusion that I jumped to, so I decided to create this thread Proceed with caution if you don't want any possibility of a major Heroes plot being spoiled.





During the Final segment after Sylar is defeated, Claire is struggling with the thought of killing Peter, and the following conversation takes place:

Peter: Do it. Do it! You're the only one, Claire.

Claire: Tell me theres another way, please.

Peter: Shoot me. There is no other way.

Nathan[Flys-In]: Yes there is, Claire.

And as we know, Nathan decides to make the biggest sacrifice, saving New York by flying Peter into the sky and exposing himself to deadly radiation and likely his death.

But did you notice something? how about the bolded portion of the conversation. NATHAN IS FLYING IN WHEN THE CONVERSATION IS TAKING PLACE! How could he have possibly of heard the conversation that was going on between Claire and Peter, they weren't exactly shouting loud enough for someone thousands of feet in the air to hear them. And that's where the smoking gun known as super hearing comes in, and who's holding that smoking gun but none other than everyone's favorite watchmaker.

Doing my best Monk impression... Here's what happened:

Remember what Molly said to Mohinder about Sylar when Mohinder asked if Sylar was on his way? She said that he was already there. You know who else was already there? Candice, who as we all know, has the power of illusion. Sylar had ample time to take her power, which means he could take any form he wanted. This is the power that sets the rest of Sylar's plan into motion.

The first form he takes is as Claire. A repentant Nathan flies to the scene where the exploding man is supposed to detonate, in hopes of finding his brother there. He finds Claire(or so he thinks) and goes with her to try and find Peter. The search doesn't last long, as he ends up getting his brains munched by Sylar because he let his guard down.

The second thing Sylar does, is use the illusionary power to pull the wool completely over everyone's eyes. Sylar gets stabbed and killed by Hiro, and everyone thinks that the dangerous psychopath has finally been defeated. But truthfully Sylar either used a clone, or illusioned that he was stabbed when he really had dodged the attack. he illusions his own death, so that no one expects the plot that he's putting in place is happening.

The next and final major form that Sylar takes is that of Nathan. He uses Nathan's flight power to get Peter right where he needs him to be: in the sky, all alone. Peter can't fight back since he's about to explode, and since no one can see what's happening in the sky, Sylar can munch on some more Petrelli Brains.

The bomb that goes off is Sylar using Ted's power. But all the heroes think it was Peter who exploded, and won't be suprised when they learn that Peter won't be returning.

The people of New York will want to know what the large explosion was in the sky that night, and this is when Sylar takes the form of a charred and disfigured Nathan, who tells the world what happened that day. The congressman will be applauded for his bravery, and pitied for the death of his brother. The world will grow to accept people with abilities, but Sylar(as Nathan) will stress that even the most peaceful of people can be dangerous if they have abilities, and point to Peter Petrelli as the ultimate example. Because of the sacrifices that the world thinks Nathan Petrelli has made, they will elect him into the presidency. They will follow his plan to "help" people with abilities, but as we all know there is no way to help them, Sylar will just be helping himself to the all-you-can-eat special at the brain buffet. Sylar will realize his mother's wish for him to be special, and be as close as he possibly can be to being able to taste the most delicious brains of them all: cheerleader brains. What they lack in quantity they make up for in flavor.

Of course, with new york being spared destruction, the heroes that died in New York will still be alive, unlike in the episode 5 years gone. Micah will be alive, meaning his manipulation of machines is still on the table and Nikki has access to Jessica's powers(never learned to control them in 5 years gone). Hiro won't become cynical because of Ando's death, and then there's the issue of the only man that Molly is afraid of trying to find. We didn't see him in 5 years gone, perhaps he too died in the explosion? or perhaps never had a reason to reveal himself.

Point is, even though Sylar gets in control, the events of 5 years gone aren't a certainty, who knows what can happen. the creative team working for Heroes could likely form endless outcomes for this scenario that didn't involve Sylar getting Indestructibility.

Oh, if you're not covinced that this may be what actually happens, here's some more evidence for my theory. take this conversation between Noah and Peter as they enter the scene where the exploding man is supposed to detonate. They're looking for Sylar.

Peteroesn't look like there are many places to hide, are you sure about this tracking system?

Noah: He's here, don't worry.

Peter: Alright, look, alright, then that means he's hiding in plain sight

When Peter says that last line, he's looking directly at Noah. he turns to face the same direction as Noah for just a split second, and Sylar sneaks up and taps Noah on the shoulder, tossing him into a wall. How could Peter have not seen him? the Sylar we know shouldn't be able to pull that off, but with the illusion ability or the ability to fly at the speed of sound, appearing in a place in a split second is very plausible.

Now, the evidence I pointed out could have just been mistakes made by the people producing Heroes, but those are some awfully odd mistakes for them to make, they haven't made those types of mistakes before. It all fits into place, and would be an outstanding story. This allows the actor who portrays Nathan to stay on the show for a while, while Zachary Quinto takes a brief leave from the series, as he is presumed dead. When the truth is finally revealed on the show, many fans will be shocked, and the show will point out these small details that many had overlooked during the season one finale. The fans that questioned the way the season ended the way it did, would be applauding the creative staff's decision if this is what really happens.

[Matthew Triggs]

Wow, that actually makes a hell of a lot of sense. Unless of course Nathan just said "yes there is claire" for dramatic effect. I mean, it is a corny way to end it but you know...

[Mathsorcerer]

Everything hinges on Sylar finding Candace and taking her ability. As far as we know, she was unconscious on floor of a 42nd floor condominium at the time.

[Matthew Triggs]

Mathys Right...once again!

Well, Niki deffinately knocked out Candice, and there was a pause while they got down to the floor. Syler could've got up to floor 42nd in someway and down in that time, so it would all fit in.

[Watchmaker's Son]

Originally Posted by Mathsorcerer

Everything hinges on Sylar finding Candace and taking her ability. As far as we know, she was unconscious on floor of a 42nd floor condominium at the time.

finding a woman in a 42 floor building would make finding a needle in a haystack look tame, if we were talking about a normal person trying to find her. But as we both know, Sylar's special. Candice's ability and location could have been revealed to Sylar in a Vision, and he decided to put this plan in place, as it was his best bet to gain the power he desires.

There could even be more sinister implications. Perhaps Sylar has a partner who would know about Candice? Interesting to note that Sylar was in fact captured and his powers were neutralized by the haitian. Great time to kill Sylar, but they didn't. Noah says they "had their marching orders" not to kill him. His powers are a mystery, and likely very intriguing to whoever's in charge of primatech(or whatever the real name of the organization is). They put him through rigorous testing, and couldn't find the source of his powers. And if you can't beat'em, join'em. Sylar may be exactly what the organization wants, and since they can't create their own(or duplicate their original creation), they made him a very persuasive offer, an offer that makes Nathan's offer from Linderman look like chump change.

There's also the possibility that the Candice that was knocked out by Nikki wasn't candice at all, but Sylar. and he wasn't knocked out, he just pretended to be. That would explain why Candice didn't revert back to her true form.

Candice's power was the only one he needed, so he wouldn't take Micah's. He had to make sure Micah didn't know that he killed Candice, so he stuck around for a while, only long enough to purposely lose a fight to nikki.

[Matthew Triggs]

once again, another well thought possibility, though i doubt sylar would gain much, as he only wants other powers. it oculd be though that all the supers primatech has, are being given as payment? this is because i doubt sylar would be interested in money

[Watchmaker's Son]

Originally Posted by Matthew Triggs

once again, another well thought possibility, though i doubt sylar would gain much, as he only wants other powers. it oculd be though that all the supers primatech has, are being given as payment? this is because i doubt sylar would be interested in money

supers would be a part of it, but I think Sylar would very much like the fact that he can be president for life in this scenario. Every re-election he could just kill the real president and then take their place.

[Mathsorcerer]

Originally Posted by Watchmaker's Son

Perhaps Sylar has a partner who would know about Candice?

Sylar doesn't work with any partners.

Originally Posted by Watchmaker's Son

There's also the possibility that the Candice that was knocked out by Nikki wasn't candice at all, but Sylar. and he wasn't knocked out, he just pretended to be. That would explain why Candice didn't revert back to her true form.

Candice's power was the only one he needed, so he wouldn't take Micah's. He had to make sure Micah didn't know that he killed Candice, so he stuck around for a while, only long enough to purposely lose a fight to nikki.

Sylar wouldn't have feigned losing to Niki. He would have taken both hers and DL's powers.

Why do you think that wasn't Candace's true form?

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You have an excellent hypothesis. Don't ruin it by extrapolating all sorts of circumstances to try and prove it.

[thedonnie]

The one key issue is: An what point did he take Candice's power and at what point did he take Nathan's power?

You see, when the mechanic was attacked, she commented about not hearing Sylar come up which would indeed be odd considering the extend of her powers. Now we know that Sylar has enough telekinetic ability to lift a man up but does he have enough to pick up two people? Maybe...maybe not...so then this means that it was either Nathan really doing it or it was Sylar who had Nathan's power...or Sylar was faking it. Now the third one is extremely far fetched. The second one could be true but it points to my orignial point of: When did he aquire it? And so we have to weigh in that the first option is the best one and that Nathan was just being cheesy heroic.

And Maths, the evidence that that was not Candice's true form was in the fact that Candice had insinuated that she was overweight. Either in the past or the present and was using her illusionary powers to hide it.

[Watchmaker's Son]

Originally Posted by Mathsorcerer

Sylar doesn't work with any partners.



Sylar wouldn't have feigned losing to Niki. He would have taken both hers and DL's powers.

Why do you think that wasn't Candace's true form?

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You have an excellent hypothesis. Don't ruin it by extrapolating all sorts of circumstances to try and prove it.

So far as we know, Sylar doesn't work with any partners. He may not know himself. for all we know the power to see into the future may be piped into it's owner from another source, Isaac may have seen what that person wanted him to see, same with Sylar.


I'm pretty sure Sylar would not have wanted Jessica floating around in his head. as for D.L., was he even there? I thought Nikki confronted Candice alone.

Besides, going after those guys would be too risky. Parkman and Noah knew they were in the building, If Sylar's plan was as I laid it out, then having those guys not show up would have jeopardized it. Candice on the other hand, had lost contact with Noah, and the only person we know of who knew she was there was Linderman, who's dead now.

Speaking of Linderman, does it matter in his vision who's in charge between Nathan or Sylar so long as the same goals are met? I wouldn't think so.