Heroes Season 4 Hints, News, and Firings

Heroes Season 3 has come and gone with last night’s “An Invisible Thread”, which means it’s time to look forward to what lays ahead in Heroes Season 4, starting with the volume “Redemption”. First of all, to get it out of the way (and to lessen the emails I’m still getting), Yes, I am aware that Heroes Season 4 will have fewer episodes (18-20 was the last word), because we reported on it LAST MONTH. Now, let’s move on to what we can expect in Season 4, as well as other cast/crew news.

Quickly, some bad news to report, as Heroes has fired another producer/writer/director in Greg Beeman, who made the announcement on his blog that he will not be around for Heroes Season 4.

Dearest readers, this is a sad moment for me, as it will be, not only my final blog for Season 3, but also my final blog for HEROES.

You see, I will not be returning to HEROES for Season 4. Ultimately this was a financially motivated decision made by NBC. They no longer want to have a Producer/Director position on the show. But it coincides well with my own innate wanderlust, and so, while sad to leave so many friends and comrades, I am excited for the future.

Beeman adds that this doesn’t mean he’s shutting down his blog, but it will just be less Heroes-centric from now on.

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The usually spoilerific Watch With Kristin didn’t have a whole lot to say about what to expect in Heroes Season 4, except that the new version of The Company will now protect and help normal people and those with abilities. I.e. They won’t be nearly as evil, and may even be benevolent. The rest of the article is pretty much a recap of last night’s episode.

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Here’s the Season 4 “Redemption” clip at the end of last night’s “An Invisible Thread” in case you missed it:


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  • Kuer

    Oooooh, shiny.

    And since they all whine at the writers/producers/whatever, I’m interested in the comments to come.

    • byron

      I hope that “Redemption” is a metaphor for Heroes redeeming itself as a television show.

      • byron

        I want to add that you can’t have Claire’s blood save someone who has bled to death, it would just take too much blood to do that, which would kill Claire. It’s not that hard to figure out either.

  • Kuer

    Oooooh, shiny.

    And since they all whine at the writers/producers/whatever, I’m interested in the comments to come.

    • byron

      I hope that “Redemption” is a metaphor for Heroes redeeming itself as a television show.

      • byron

        I want to add that you can’t have Claire’s blood save someone who has bled to death, it would just take too much blood to do that, which would kill Claire. It’s not that hard to figure out either.

  • kingGenesis

    victor; DO you even no how to kill me
    james; Im gonna cut your god dam*ed head . see if that works
    victor;hahaaa
    james arrrgggrg

  • kingGenesis

    victor; DO you even no how to kill me
    james; Im gonna cut your god dam*ed head . see if that works
    victor;hahaaa
    james arrrgggrg

  • Embelo

    What Can we expect from the 4th season.MMmm
    Well… The main villain is dead and from what a saw in the preview the new villain isnt that much interesting anyway I like heroes Hardcore fan so i wil keep watching in good and bad times

    • pops

      what main villian is dead? are you referring to sylar or danko? either way neither of them died. obviously sylar is still and prentending/thinking that he is nathan and danko was only injected with a tranquilizer. plus it has been stated by someone from the show (i believe a writer) that danko will return on season 4

    • Ann De Vries

      Sylar isn’t dead, and personally I don’t think he is a villain, sociopath, absolutely.
      But he wants to be special,powerful,and sort of save the world, if anything he’s a dark version of Peter.
      Ppl comment about having the villain from season 1 still there. Apart from the fact that he is a well-written character, played by I think the most talented cast member, Sylar is also a catalyst for the ‘real’ heroes.
      Clair defenitely changed because of what he did,she become tougher…

    • Fansincefirstseason

      I have a feeling they will bring back sylar once again (since the clock twitch is still present) and Peter will still be the weakest link (thanks TIM KRING!) How would season 4 be any worse…. oooo by keeping hiro a 9 y/o since thats the way he has been acting for the last 2 seasons!!!

      • ralys

        yes, the conspiracy to fool sylar into believing he’s nathan is weak.. how will he ever explain the gazillion powers that he now possesses? and besides, they just erased his memory as sylar.. he’s still a dormant sociopath, who’s going to want to kill people the moment he realizes he can take their power!

        and oh yeah, i’m sure peter is going to meet matt parkman jr soon and get his powers back.

      • peterfan

        i believe might have regained his ability when he tuched sylar so that would make a big difference now hopefully.

  • Embelo

    What Can we expect from the 4th season.MMmm
    Well… The main villain is dead and from what a saw in the preview the new villain isnt that much interesting anyway I like heroes Hardcore fan so i wil keep watching in good and bad times

    • pops

      what main villian is dead? are you referring to sylar or danko? either way neither of them died. obviously sylar is still and prentending/thinking that he is nathan and danko was only injected with a tranquilizer. plus it has been stated by someone from the show (i believe a writer) that danko will return on season 4

    • Ann De Vries

      Sylar isn’t dead, and personally I don’t think he is a villain, sociopath, absolutely.
      But he wants to be special,powerful,and sort of save the world, if anything he’s a dark version of Peter.
      Ppl comment about having the villain from season 1 still there. Apart from the fact that he is a well-written character, played by I think the most talented cast member, Sylar is also a catalyst for the ‘real’ heroes.
      Clair defenitely changed because of what he did,she become tougher…

    • Fansincefirstseason

      I have a feeling they will bring back sylar once again (since the clock twitch is still present) and Peter will still be the weakest link (thanks TIM KRING!) How would season 4 be any worse…. oooo by keeping hiro a 9 y/o since thats the way he has been acting for the last 2 seasons!!!

      • ralys

        yes, the conspiracy to fool sylar into believing he’s nathan is weak.. how will he ever explain the gazillion powers that he now possesses? and besides, they just erased his memory as sylar.. he’s still a dormant sociopath, who’s going to want to kill people the moment he realizes he can take their power!

        and oh yeah, i’m sure peter is going to meet matt parkman jr soon and get his powers back.

      • peterfan

        i believe might have regained his ability when he tuched sylar so that would make a big difference now hopefully.

  • mizo amin

    now we have 2 problems..
    Now it is impossible to kill sylar..and it’s a joke for me to be a end like that..sylar can find out that he’s not Petrelli..

    the other thing is Ali Larter after she became the water woman :-)
    she will try to kill Petrelli cuz he kept her in jail..
    so she will find that she can’t kill him cuz he’s immortal..as sylar body..

    i think it’s weird end in season 3.. :s
    but at least it’s something new :D

    peace on u all ;-)

    • Max Power

      That’s a very interesting point. Tracy will definitely try to kill (or at least injure greatly) “Nathan”, and then Sylar could awaken.

      Honestly this is the only way the next season could be any good, because Tracy Strauss would make a weak villain in my opinion.

    • Asif

      how do we know the water woman is tracy strauss….what if she is the third of the triplets…Barbara as mentioned earlier in the season?

      and the end of volume 4 was a little lame with sylars mind being manipulated…surely it cant be that easy to mess with someone who has so much power and so many abilities…

      atleast peter has got all of sylars abilities ….it had to be done…but wouldve been nice to see a showdown between sylar and the petrelli bros…and nathan was killed off to easily…again…

      also…we werent told whether Peter absorbed all of sylars abilities or just the shapeshifting…yeh we were told he could only absorb one at a time when he touched another person with abilities…but no one else has multiple abilities like sylar, so what if peter was able to absorb all of sylars abilities??

      looking forward to redemption…not very impressed with fugitives finale….

      • HeroesQuebec

        For sure he didn’t capture the healing ability as his scratch on the face didn’t disapear.

        Let me guess, in season 4 Sylar will be in touch with baby Matt Parkman and he will recover his personality.

        Disapointed of the season final…

      • Christopher

        matt has two abilities, pushing mind and painting the future, when he and peter went to b26 a think he only obtained mind reading/pushing ability. but… i can be wrong :P

  • mizo amin

    now we have 2 problems..
    Now it is impossible to kill sylar..and it’s a joke for me to be a end like that..sylar can find out that he’s not Petrelli..

    the other thing is Ali Larter after she became the water woman :-)
    she will try to kill Petrelli cuz he kept her in jail..
    so she will find that she can’t kill him cuz he’s immortal..as sylar body..

    i think it’s weird end in season 3.. :s
    but at least it’s something new :D

    peace on u all ;-)

    • Max Power

      That’s a very interesting point. Tracy will definitely try to kill (or at least injure greatly) “Nathan”, and then Sylar could awaken.

      Honestly this is the only way the next season could be any good, because Tracy Strauss would make a weak villain in my opinion.

    • Asif

      how do we know the water woman is tracy strauss….what if she is the third of the triplets…Barbara as mentioned earlier in the season?

      and the end of volume 4 was a little lame with sylars mind being manipulated…surely it cant be that easy to mess with someone who has so much power and so many abilities…

      atleast peter has got all of sylars abilities ….it had to be done…but wouldve been nice to see a showdown between sylar and the petrelli bros…and nathan was killed off to easily…again…

      also…we werent told whether Peter absorbed all of sylars abilities or just the shapeshifting…yeh we were told he could only absorb one at a time when he touched another person with abilities…but no one else has multiple abilities like sylar, so what if peter was able to absorb all of sylars abilities??

      looking forward to redemption…not very impressed with fugitives finale….

      • HeroesQuebec

        For sure he didn’t capture the healing ability as his scratch on the face didn’t disapear.

        Let me guess, in season 4 Sylar will be in touch with baby Matt Parkman and he will recover his personality.

        Disapointed of the season final…

      • Christopher

        matt has two abilities, pushing mind and painting the future, when he and peter went to b26 a think he only obtained mind reading/pushing ability. but… i can be wrong :P

  • killacus

    its goin to be interesting to see how nathen deals with himself realising he is actually a serial killer who has been manipulated by his family again. i think this story syler is going through will make him an even more twisted human being than be4. i will say im dissapointed with matts/angelas final scenes in this because we dont actually see what angela dreamed yano it wud of been cool if we were shown how matt saves nathen then it all goin wrong or maby ive just spoiled the whole thing by realising that he didnt do it yet because he wasnt suppose to save him yet…maby he does in a later ep…

    im personnally hoping that nathen realises that he can do all this new stuff other than fly and starts asking questions and becomes insane with all this memory stuff going on in his head. maby his regeneration ability will evolve into something more and sylers half will seperate from nathen creating 2 versions of syler the good 1 (nathen) and the pure evil 1 (syler). for those of you that know dragonball z think of the buu story and u will understand what i mean

    • Medj

      Buu story…I was thinking more of the Piccolo story…

  • killacus

    its goin to be interesting to see how nathen deals with himself realising he is actually a serial killer who has been manipulated by his family again. i think this story syler is going through will make him an even more twisted human being than be4. i will say im dissapointed with matts/angelas final scenes in this because we dont actually see what angela dreamed yano it wud of been cool if we were shown how matt saves nathen then it all goin wrong or maby ive just spoiled the whole thing by realising that he didnt do it yet because he wasnt suppose to save him yet…maby he does in a later ep…

    im personnally hoping that nathen realises that he can do all this new stuff other than fly and starts asking questions and becomes insane with all this memory stuff going on in his head. maby his regeneration ability will evolve into something more and sylers half will seperate from nathen creating 2 versions of syler the good 1 (nathen) and the pure evil 1 (syler). for those of you that know dragonball z think of the buu story and u will understand what i mean

    • Medj

      Buu story…I was thinking more of the Piccolo story…

  • Keither Petrelli

    I thought the ending of season 3 would have been more Epic… Also the preview of season 4 had nothing that made me say “oh man I can’t wait till next season” It was all and all a pretty mellow event…

  • Keither Petrelli

    I thought the ending of season 3 would have been more Epic… Also the preview of season 4 had nothing that made me say “oh man I can’t wait till next season” It was all and all a pretty mellow event…

  • LIB

    Anyone knows aprox when this season 4 is expected to start? november? february???

  • LIB

    Anyone knows aprox when this season 4 is expected to start? november? february???

  • http://www.botproductions.com/stellar/scorpius.html corbyn

    maybe in mid September

  • http://www.botproductions.com/stellar/scorpius.html corbyn

    maybe in mid September

  • jer

    My question is this. Why are they killing off Nathan? Because once Sylar becomes Sylar again which we know that he will Nathan will be completely dead. Remember back when Nathan almost died and then her other dad got shot in the head. But Clairs blood saved them both. Why not do this again? Geezz come on.

    • V

      exactly…i don’t understand how Nathan gets saved by Claire’s blood and now all of a sudden this cannot be done again…sometimes I feel the writers are not very consistent with the storyline.

      • J

        I agree. They really do a lot of inconsistent things with the story line. Whatever happened to the Sylar of the future who had the kid?

        It really seems like they just start a storyline and then go wherever they want to with it, with no respect for the things they have set up in the past. I don’t expect an explanation for everything, but at least they could be true to logic. They have been all over the place this season. As a viewer, I am very disappointed that they think we’re so dumb we won’t notice.

        I loved this show because it was so different from the drivel we are usually force fed. It had so many possibilities and yet, they have gone…probably, wherever tv execs and opinion polls forced them to go.

        I love this show and I hope, as others have said, that “Redemption” will be the redemption of the series. I feel like nothing was resolved this whole season.

  • jer

    My question is this. Why are they killing off Nathan? Because once Sylar becomes Sylar again which we know that he will Nathan will be completely dead. Remember back when Nathan almost died and then her other dad got shot in the head. But Clairs blood saved them both. Why not do this again? Geezz come on.

    • V

      exactly…i don’t understand how Nathan gets saved by Claire’s blood and now all of a sudden this cannot be done again…sometimes I feel the writers are not very consistent with the storyline.

      • J

        I agree. They really do a lot of inconsistent things with the story line. Whatever happened to the Sylar of the future who had the kid?

        It really seems like they just start a storyline and then go wherever they want to with it, with no respect for the things they have set up in the past. I don’t expect an explanation for everything, but at least they could be true to logic. They have been all over the place this season. As a viewer, I am very disappointed that they think we’re so dumb we won’t notice.

        I loved this show because it was so different from the drivel we are usually force fed. It had so many possibilities and yet, they have gone…probably, wherever tv execs and opinion polls forced them to go.

        I love this show and I hope, as others have said, that “Redemption” will be the redemption of the series. I feel like nothing was resolved this whole season.

  • Max Power

    Nathan’s character was losing his purpose. I think we still have way too many Petrellis in the show.

    All in all, I was somewhat disappointed with the conclusion of Volume Four. I liked the part where Peter, Nathan and Claire team up to get Sylar, and I think it was necessary to hide the final battle (because they already proved they can’t do it properly – see end of Volume One), but Hiro’s condition was strangely left unexplained. I mean, people don’t bleed from their nose and ear just from lack of sleep…

    It was good that Peter finally became useful, acquiring Sylar’s abilities. But now there’s nobody in his league anymore, not until the bad guy recovers his identity.

    And talking about bad guys, Tracy will be a very lame villain. Her motivation is revenge, so that limits her scope significantly. Sadly, the best villains were killed in Volume Three (namely Adam Monroe and Arthur Petrelli). I hope the writers can come up with a better villain and a better reason, because I still think this show is one of the best on TV.

    • shak

      not abilities…….ability is the correct word

      • peterfan

        peter told sylar in the limousine that he had acquired his abilities in the form of a question. That states that he has all of his abilities from touching him. the fact that he said he stole his lie detection abilitty too, as in also means he has all of his abilities now. which means he could have aqcuired his own ability back being empathic mimicry of course because of how the first season described it having to do with where peters heart is. or his feelings. I think he could have gained back his old ability from sylar in that manner. unless it’s just an evolutionary process that he has to go through to make it the way it was before. i just wanted to get my thoughts out there is all.

    • botchie

      I think you are forgetting about some of the villains they introduced in volume 4, like Samson, Sylar’s dad, Sylar mentioned him in the finale to Claire. I think that is a fore-shadowing of a Volume 5 villain. I think Samson will come after Claire and try to take her healing ability to save his life. Also, you know Alice is going to come back as a storm wielding enemy looking to extract revenge on Angela.

      • Max Power

        Well, you have a point there – I think John Glover could play an interesting villain if Samson ever acquires Claire’s ability. And that Alice woman does have a very good power, she just needs proper guidance.

        I guess I was just disappointed they ignored the Barbara angle and kept Tracy in the show…

      • peterman

        no im sorry but the bad person in the next is a girl!!

  • Max Power

    Nathan’s character was losing his purpose. I think we still have way too many Petrellis in the show.

    All in all, I was somewhat disappointed with the conclusion of Volume Four. I liked the part where Peter, Nathan and Claire team up to get Sylar, and I think it was necessary to hide the final battle (because they already proved they can’t do it properly – see end of Volume One), but Hiro’s condition was strangely left unexplained. I mean, people don’t bleed from their nose and ear just from lack of sleep…

    It was good that Peter finally became useful, acquiring Sylar’s abilities. But now there’s nobody in his league anymore, not until the bad guy recovers his identity.

    And talking about bad guys, Tracy will be a very lame villain. Her motivation is revenge, so that limits her scope significantly. Sadly, the best villains were killed in Volume Three (namely Adam Monroe and Arthur Petrelli). I hope the writers can come up with a better villain and a better reason, because I still think this show is one of the best on TV.

    • shak

      not abilities…….ability is the correct word

      • peterfan

        peter told sylar in the limousine that he had acquired his abilities in the form of a question. That states that he has all of his abilities from touching him. the fact that he said he stole his lie detection abilitty too, as in also means he has all of his abilities now. which means he could have aqcuired his own ability back being empathic mimicry of course because of how the first season described it having to do with where peters heart is. or his feelings. I think he could have gained back his old ability from sylar in that manner. unless it’s just an evolutionary process that he has to go through to make it the way it was before. i just wanted to get my thoughts out there is all.

    • botchie

      I think you are forgetting about some of the villains they introduced in volume 4, like Samson, Sylar’s dad, Sylar mentioned him in the finale to Claire. I think that is a fore-shadowing of a Volume 5 villain. I think Samson will come after Claire and try to take her healing ability to save his life. Also, you know Alice is going to come back as a storm wielding enemy looking to extract revenge on Angela.

      • Max Power

        Well, you have a point there – I think John Glover could play an interesting villain if Samson ever acquires Claire’s ability. And that Alice woman does have a very good power, she just needs proper guidance.

        I guess I was just disappointed they ignored the Barbara angle and kept Tracy in the show…

      • peterman

        no im sorry but the bad person in the next is a girl!!