Heroes Season 3 Premiere Episode SPOILERS (WARNING!!!)
By Sam | July 26, 2008 (5:39 pm)
I don’t go around using the words “Warning” a lot in post titles, and I certainly am not prone to using not one, not two, but three exclamation points after said “Warning” label. So when I tell you that this post contains a SCENE-BY-SCENE SPOILER of the upcoming Heroes Season 3 premiere, you should understand that I mean it contains a scene-by-scene spoiler from the upcoming Heroes Season 3 premiere. Got that? I’m not playing around here. Don’t even continue reading unless you want to know.
This is your second chance. STOP READING NOW.
Still here? Okay, this is your third and FINAL CHANCE to stop reading.
Still wanna know?
Okay, here they are, from two sources, Movieweb and Comingsoon, who both had writers at the Comic Con when they showed the Heroes Season 3 premiere. I’m still going to guess that we’re talking about the first hour, and not the complete 2-hour premiere that will be airing September 22nd. [Note: Much of what follows is what I've extrapolated from the two articles; there are a couple of contradictions, and I've done my best to clear them up.]
Update: Additional SPOILERS from Newsarama and Popcritics have been added to the original article.
[First up, the first episode's title may or may not have been changed from "The Butterfly Effect" to "The Second Coming".]
Four Years in the Future: Future Claire and Future Peter
- We open four years in the future, with the oft-talked about scene where Future Claire aims a gun at Future Peter, tells him she’s “always loved him”, pulls the trigger. Well of course you can’t kill a guy who can stop time. Future Peter freezes time, takes the gun from Claire, and disappears, leaving Claire frozen in time. It appears Future Peter has returned to the past …
Future Peter Shot Nathan in the Past
- Future Peter shoots Nathan at the press conference, as seen at the end of “Powerless” in Season 2. His reasons: to stop Nathan from revealing the existence of super-powered people. After shooting Nathan, Future Peter is chased by Present Peter and Matt Parkman. We don’t see what happens, but Future Peter quickly assumes the identity of Present Peter. [We later find out where Present Peter has been keeping himself throughout all this.] Future Peter’s ploy doesn’t fool Matt Parkman, who can read his mind. Unfortunately for Matt, Future Peter teleports him to the desert seen in the promos. As it turns out, it’s more a question of when then where Matt has been teleported. [It is hinted at, I believe, that Matt has been transported back in time. Way, way back in time.] Mama Petrelli later shows up at the hospital where Nathan is being kept, and presumably through the use of her powers, knows that Peter is not Peter, and tells Future Peter to leave, because he’s messing up the timeline again.
HRG and Level 5
- Where is HRG? In a Company prison cell. Also, that fat guy who claims to be Peter Petrelli that we’ve previously talked about, in the cell next to HRG’s? I think he might just be Peter after all. After all, where has Present Peter been kept while Future Peter is out there assuming his identity? My guess is that when the Level 5 cons escape, it’ll also be how Present Peter and HRG escapes.
Maya and Mohinder
- Maya goes to Mohinder for help to rid herself of her “curse” aka her poers. He takes a sample of her blood and seems to discover that powers are not genetic, and that the building blocks that creates these powers can in fact be transferred from person to person, basically power on demand, in a syringe. At the end of the premiere, Mohinder injects himself with the power, and becomes super strong. He uses his new powers on a couple of thugs trying to steal his watch when he wakes up after having injected himself with the syringe and bee knocked unconscious. [The Comic Con episode ends here, with a "To be Continued..."] [Newsarama clears this part up a bit: Mohinder discovers that the powers come from the adrenal glands, and are activated by bursts of adrenaline.]
Nathan Petrelli
- So what’s up with Nathan? Well, he was shot, then he survived. How? It isn’t made clear. He just wakes up in the hospital, alive and well, but seemingly “out of it”. He quickly heads to a church, where he claims to have been given a sign from God. It appears Nathan now believes he is an angel, sent to do good things. Is this why Future Peter shot him? How was Nathan revived? Later, Linderman, alive and well, shows up at the hospital and tells Nathan that he is destined for great things. [Popcritic clears up that Linderman only shows up to Nathan, and not both brothers.]
Claire and Sylar
- As for Claire and Sylar, it’s “When a Stranger Calls” remake, apparently, as Sylar goes to Claire’s house for her powers. They fight. She gives it to him pretty good, and even manages to stab him in the chest with a big ol kitchen knife. He of course doesn’t die. Eventually, Sylar captures her, and slices her head open as she lays twitching on a table. LITERALLY. He then steals her powers by studying her brain. LITERALLY AGAIN! After taking her invulnerability power, he tells her that she can’t die, and indeed, when he replaces the top of her skull (Holy crap!), she heals. (Sylar tells Claire, “You can never die, Claire, and now neither can I.”)
Ando and Hiro
- So what’s Ando and Hiro been up to? Apparently becoming boss of his father’s empire has made Hiro’s life very dull. He longs to be a hero again. He’s in luck. A lawyer arrives with a DVD from his deceased father telling him that he must safeguard a piece of paper containing a formula to saving the world, and that if the paper should fall into the wrong hands, a lot of people will die. The paper is inside a safe, where Hiro, unable to stop himself, takes a peek. Oops! Daphne, the speedster, shows up and steals the paper! [Apparently when Hiro freezes time, Daphne can still move in regular speed, their powers effectively canceling each other's out; of course, against Present Hiro, yes, but what about badass, Samurai sword carrying Future Hiro?] Instead of using his time powers to go back in time to stop her [he is afraid of altering the timeline once again], he decides to go into the future to see the damage losing the paper has caused. Here, Hiro witnesses an argument between Future Ando and Future Hiro (again in badass Samurai garb) apparently over a paper containing the missing formula. And get this — Ando apparently uses a superpower (described as “red bolts”!) to blast Hiro! It is also here that Hiro glimpses another incoming disaster that destroys the city, ala New York City in Season 1’s pilot, thus setting him on yet another quest to stop it. [Did Ando get these powers the same way Mohinder got his? In future, anything's possible.]
Nikki, New Orleans, etc
- Nikki (now going by Tracy Strauss, perhaps?) is alive and well, and is mistress to the New York Governor. Is this Bruce Boxleitner’s character? Possibly. [Newsrama confirms that the Governor is indeed Bruce Boxleitner, but it's not made clear if Nikki/Tracy is married to him, or his mistress.]
- There are no appearances by the New Orleans brood.
As other sites report from the Con with their own SPOILERS, I will continually update this page with articles that clears up some things, or reinforces other things. I.e. As more people publishes their articles, our article of spoilers should also get clearer.
Wow! Those were some big spoilers. I cant believe Peter is really evil and Sylar is invincible!
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Peter isn’t evil. He went back to the past to make the future a better place for special people.
maybe because the same stuff started happening that happened in X-men. People got afraid of Special people and started killing them. That’s why Peter was running at the beginning of the video.
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well you dont know that peter is evil. The things in this show get really twisted and confusing (mind you not “Lost” confusing, but confusing none the less) oh bell’s about to ring gtg
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more spoiler… peter is not evil he is part of a resistance trying to stop the past ever happening, which means mohinder creatred the formula for super powers but screws it up, and hiro has the real working formula peice… somehow the formula gets out (hiro loses it to dafne)
and everyone in the future can get powers creating too many people with super powers making the world screwed up and blows its self to peices,, peter becomes bad cause he aint with the company who want to have an army of superfreaks controlling the world beacuse his BRO nathan become president and crazy,
present peter steals sylars power and become Power hungry like sylar in the future…
and then it all goes to hell lol
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wow i knew it was future peter that shot nathen, now i dont really need to wait for answers i still want to watch the episode cuz watching and reading are 2 different things and ando with a power come on.. why does eveyone have to have a power.. and slyar took clairs ability but helped her put her head back together weird…
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I didn’t even read this , oh no !!!! I’ll just wait till the premiere
OMG !
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you said you will come to the point to talk about present peter and what he has been up to all the time
ehhhmmm but there is nothing
stil a great review .. makes much more sense then some rumous which were going around
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girlygirl,
The second part about Peter is in the HRG section. Peter is the bald, fat man who claims he’s Peter Petrelli, and is being held in a cell in the Company’s Level 5 prison along with HRG. Apparently Future Peter can either change someone’s appearance, or swap their bodies.
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WOW!!!!! Wonder what happens after that in the next episode. so did sylar have to put claire back together after he does whatever to her brain or did she just heal naturally.
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Yeah, Sylar put her head back on afterwards. I was really suprised they showed this episode at ComicCon as well.
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i think its a little dumb if they made the powers from blood not genetics..
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I’ve added new information to this part. It’s apparently part of the adrenal glands, and is activated by bursts of adrenalin. Apparently if you tap this part of the human body, you can basically extract whatever it is that creates powers. Or something like that.
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so finally sylar got claire steal her power but she heals anyway ,yeah sylar has claire’s power ,claire still alive “everybody happy” so super sylar now is a good guy why beacuse he has last power the he wants or beacuse mama petrelli told him is her son , and finally he’s happy cause is special with powers and cool family of course the PETRELLI’S. future peter kill nathan and fat guy is present peter or past peter or what ahhhhhh so confused ,linderman been alive it is cool and where is all the 12 villans only daphne and what about adam , and how suresh gets super strong by injecting maya’s blood …i’m so f…ing confused sylar kill me ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I think mama petrelli is evil.
I think this season focuses on how even good people (Future Peter) have to do evil things (shoot Nathan) for the greater good (making future a better place for special people).
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heroesforever they never said it was mayas blood he injected himself with he has samples of nikis blood as well and i think sylar turns good because the hatian memory wipes him and he forgets he’s evil, how did linderman come back to life though thru clair or adam blood? hmmmm…
and yeah the whole future peter and past peter thing is kind of weird like peter in the future knows that his past version wouldnt be “bad” enough to do things to alter the timeline so he kidnaps his past self and assumes his own identity… makes sence i guess but what in the future or events leading up to, them made him a badass? I think Noah is rubbing off on everyone lol and then Hiro has to protect a formula that could kill half the worlds population..hmmm is there always going to be a catastrophy storyline in heroes? is that their thing now..first it was nuclear peter then the shanti virus and now this formula i kinda wish they would of just stuck with the 12 villains as the main “catastrophy” plot oh well hopfully it all works in the end it definitly looks cool enough from the sneek peeks
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So I get it now, Sylar kills Claire gets her power, he puts claires head together I think just to freak her out and scare her, or maybe he teams up with claire, or h has a crush on Claire,:P and there is plot, that the 12 villains escape, so HRG hires him to kill the villians, because Sylar can’t die!!! I CAN’T WAIT FOR HEROES SEASON 3!!!!
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I REALLY want to read the spoilers but I know for a fact that if I do I am going to hate myself forever. IS SEPTEMBER HERE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!
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new zealand doesnt get it till wayyyy later than september!!
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maaybe sylar puts claire back together coz he is a Petrelli and that is his sister!!
maybe he was told by angela petrelli how to get it and keep his sister alive??
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How can Claire be his sister? That would make either Nathan or pyro-Mum his parents. I think you might mean she’s his niece.
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hey why didnt it post what i just
wrote
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omg im soooo happy that sylar finally gets the power
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damn why couldnt someone pirate the episode like how they pirated the clips of season 2 at a previous comic-con. *sad face*
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Here are the first 15 minutes.
http://heroesspoilers-odi.blogspot.com/2008/08/episode-3×01-first-15-minutes-leaked.html
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Well I’ve just read the first bit and I’m sorry I did, so just had to skip the rest. I do want to know, but then again I don’t. I like waiting in Anticipation at the end of every episode!
I can not wait for season 3 though.
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well… that is all i can say. i nevr thought that sylar would get claire’s ability, well at least not this soon. but i am glad she is alive. september…. . oh well, only 1 and 3/4month away.
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OMG this is too much news!!! It’s awesome!! \
i really like the new plot. and hey about maya and mohinder discovering the power transference thing is totally awesome.
I knew it was Future Peter who shot Nathan!
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mr bad
how so you suggest they pirate the episode the only verion was in a breficase handcuffed to Tim Kring lol
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I’m wondering what the second half will hold and if anything will change.
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Well, that’s interesting. Sylar letting Claire live? Is that how she becomes “bad” in the future? She teams up with Sylar? I hope not. Cause that would be dumb. It’s not cool when producers do a whole switch on good guys and bad guys. It’s more dynamic for some (1 or 2) of the heroes to turn bad, but they’re making it out to be all the heroes turn bad.
I can’t believe Peter did that to Nathan! As for Angela’s power, I have a question. I’m sure this has been voiced before, but I’ve never seen the answer. If Angela has a power, why haven’t we seen Peter use it? Maybe, cause he doesn’t know he can? But then, he didn’t know what Parkman’s was until he saw Parkman wincing and they did that whole stare-off. Also, what is the deal with Sylar being a Petrelli? Is that a joke or did someone hear something. I can’t see him being one. That would really be idiotic, and I would never like his character again. ^_^
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I think Angela’s power has been used a few times, I think it has something to do with being able to travel/manipulate events/witness events via the mind (so not Hiro’s power) to places or through dreams or something, cos
a) how did she give back peter’s memory in the future in season 2, all those flashes involved her past and no-one else why?
b) what the hell happened when Peter started talking to Charles Deveaux in the last episode of season 1, was he actually there or what?
c) what happened when Charles told Simone that he’d been flying with Peter?
d) how did Peter know what happened to Nathan when he was alseep and dreaming?
e) how did Peter get the evacuation leaflet when he didn’t leave the room he was in with Adam (he had been stripped and was in different clothes so it’d have been weird for him to still have the leaflet after that chemical shower and change of outfit)?
I think the reason behind all these is Angela’s power/s that Peter has taken but I just can’t work out what that power is (and I don’t think it’s Issac’s powers that did it either).
I think Angela is key to all these things.
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a) I think peter gets the memories back by healing his mind like he does later with Adam in the room.
b), c) I think those are Charles’ powers. They might be similar to that Indian kid that goes to Mohinder’s dreams.
d) Angela can dream the future, I read that somewhere.
e) He didn’t have the evacuation leaflet in the present. In the future, he picked it up from the ground.
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a) but why did every memory that flashed in his mind have her by herself, not even Nathan? I think there’s more to it than that
b)/c) It’s possible it’s Charles power, admittedly but still what the hell are they?
d) I’m still not convinced of that, is he dreaming the future, present or can he transport himself via dreams so that he physically stays behind (like being in two places at once)?
e) my point was he didn’t have it when he first returned from the future, then after he met Adam he seemingly was shouting in NY and claimed he’d been there and suddenly had the leaflet although Adam said he hadn’t left the room. He could have returned incredibly quickly (so that Adam didn’t see him leave) but as none of the homeland security guys tried to tackle him even though he was shouting and right next to them I’m more inclined to believe it was something else (unless people want to throw in his capability to become invisible, which to me just reminds me of when he met up with Charles in the season 1 finale but no-one else there could see him).
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Peter has used her power. He just doesn’t know that he has.
Many times, Peter has dreamt the future. That is her power. That’s why she knows a lot of stuff like she knows that Peter is not the present one. Peter doesn’t know that that is a power.
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I wish i didn’t read…
mate. you’ve done good.
awesome ando vs super sylar
Sylar tells Claire, “You can never die, Claire, and now neither can I.”
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hello wher can i find the comics and what are the price ?
heroes magazine from tv series Comic Books 9th wonders ?
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That scene with Claire’s head sliced open will be horrifying. I’ll just hope I won’t puke… ugh.
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There is a really funny line that Sylar says at this part as well.
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I don’t like Daphne being able to travel normally when Hiro stops time, he still STOPS time, he isn’t slowing it down (or is he, in which case it will make sense). Otherwise it’s ruined his power.
And by Sylar not taking Claire’s brain it has changed the writers hints that he eats brains to acquire powers. I don’t want him to be immortal, I just want him to wise up and go after Peter PROPERLY who undoubtedly has the power he truly needs for his evil intentions (not Claire). I also don’t understand the whole ‘it’s not genetic but about taking blood’ which makes me wonder why bother with season 2 (which I am among the few to have loved) at all.
I am pleased though that all of us who thought that it was Future Peter were correct *smug mode*.
Otherwise it sounds very cool and I hope they’ve left some stuff out of that description so we can be surprised.
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Another Heroes site report on the Comic Con showing claimed that Sylar was invisible to Claire when he was chasing her? Can anyone verify if this is true? And if it is, was it just a dramatic effect or did he truly have the power of invisibility?
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I’m wondering the same thing myself. I know Sylar was showing up out of nowhere and disappearing in season one, even when the one character we’ve been shown who DOES have invisibility, Claude, was alive and safe (heck at that point even HRG thought Claude was dead). I don’t think it’s invisibility but something else, like what Sylar used back in season 1 to escape the police station when he failed to catch Molly there or in “Homecoming” when he fights with Peter: one minute he’s a good distance away the next he’s practically on top of Peter, whose response was to pull Sylar over the wall with him, though Sylar disappears after that and when we see him again, yeah he’s hurt but he’s a good distance away and Eden and the Haitian capture him.
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Saravy
Peter found out Parkman could read minds when Parkman was questioning him about the whole sylar comming for clair thing, Parkman tried to read his mind then there was feed back meaning they were trying to read each others minds at the same time just to clear that up,
and Angela has been said to have more then one power and we’ll be told what at least one of them is in this season I also want to know what Hiros fathers power was to although hes dead it will still be interesting. and to answer one of your questions Sezza80 if Peter can teleport a whole person to the future im sure a leaflet is no problem and Adam said he never went anywhere is because he probably froze adam in time or something before he left as hiros powers for peter was still reletivly new, And Aparrantly sylar doesnt eat brains He takes them and studies them makes more sence because he needs his power to see how things works so he can alter himself (somehow) this also explains why in the first season sylar had a whole bunch of brains in jars in the secret room in his apartment. And now Sylar is immortal aperantly but does that make Peter immortal as well since he had contact with both Clair and Adam? and whoa wouldnt it be crazy if Peter didnt even have powers to begin with and was injected this whole time by his mother WHOAAAAAAAA!!!!!! that would be craziness
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I don’t like to believe Peter actually went to the future again cos no-one noticed him back there and it was a dreamlike sequence, the music and atmosphere didn’t make it appear like he was really there as well as Adam saying he never left the room.
I’m more inclined to believe he was able to obtain an object from the future (or anywhere in time in theory) without actually travelling there himself and that’s a whole new power we know nothing about and would help him a great deal.
Add to that incident and Peter being present at Nathan and Heidi’s crash starts to tie in. He hadn’t met Issac at that stage (cos it was 6 months prior to first episode) so how else would he have seen what was going on? Plus he was dreaming and in bed (maybe it works that daydreaming can work the say way, hence him seemingly not moving and Adam not noticing him going anywhere).
For him to actually have gone anywhere to obtain the leaflet just doesn’t fit for me.
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what leaflet are you guys talking about.
They didn’t show the evacuation notice in the present ever. It was only shown in the future.
And about peter’s and nathan’s picture, They probably gave it back to peter after finding out that he wasn’t infected.
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Peter showed it to Adam in Montreal, that’s the present and he’d been through a chemical shower and change of clothes prior to returning to Montreal so how and when did he get it. It was never truly revealed clearly.
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http://heroeswiki.com/Episode:Truth_%26_Consequences
Here it even tells the episode of when Peter had the notice (apologies, I’ve been calling it a leaflet) in the PRESENT.
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Concerning Angela’s power, a different site said after viewing the episode that it was “seeing the future through dreams,” which of course we have seen Peter display many times.
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Yeah, that’s what she was saying. She dreams the future. Peter was able to detect that his brother had been in an accident because he saw it in a dream like his mom did.
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How can Future Claire shoot at Future Peter but have died in the past?
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Clair didnt die read the top shes immortal like Adam and sylar put her head back together
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and sylar must have some sort of cloaking or invisibility because i just watched the episode after he gets captured and kills eden Noah comes back in to find the white sheet not over Sylar but over the doctor guy but it appears Sylar isnt even in the room but then right after Noah lifts the sheets Sylar is right behind him
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Well Sylar can’t have gotten that from Claude as Claude was alive and well and in NYC at the time and Peter was being taught by Claude while that was going on.
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ok, u r really obsessed with claude.
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He keeps me from going insane in this mad world we live in.
Everyone’s gotta have a hero right? Well, Claude is mine.
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In the episode when he killed that super-hearing old lady, she says that she didn’t hear his footsteps. She only heard his heartbeat. Then, Sylar says that that’s because he wasn’t walking.
I think he can float or something. Nothing major like flying. Maybe just floating.
Or it’s because he is telekinetic. He can move stuff. maybe he moved himself or the air around him causing him to move too. That explains how he got away after failing to capture Molly.
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Tarot that happens after actually but your point is still right about not getting it from claude.
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you know, if mohinder injected himself with maya’s blood…he may become and addict and eventually get aids.
not hating, but it’ll be a fun way to kill him off.
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I want to know what happens to Elle…
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….and Bob.
Suppose they were killed by the villains when they escaped the Level 5 prison?
Well, no Micah and copycat girl in this episode, which is (maybe) a GOOD sign that things are getting SO MUCH MORE SERIOUS! Keep the kids at home, guys, cause Sylar’s comin’…
….and Adam.
Suppose he’s still locked up down there when all the villains are having fun? Well I think if he can get out, it’ll be Future Peter who gets him out, what’s with him having the teleportation power and all (or just nuke the grave with the nitro blast ability and just have Adam heal afterwards, to give him a lesson, he won’t die from that anyway).
Invincible vs Invincible.
Let’s just have Sylar and Peter nuking each other all around and there goes the rest of history…
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LMAO AT THE LAST LINE!!!
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The season 3 premiere is titled “The Butterfly Effect”.
According to the space time continum, and from what I’ve learned about stuff like this from movies, if you’re from the future and you travel back to the past and are killed, the FUTURE version of you dies. The version of you from the past still lives on.
But, if someone from the future travelled to the present and killed a present version of you, then you wouldn’t exist in the future.
Future Claire shot at Future Peter saying, “I’ve always loved you”.
READ THE SPOILERS FROM COMIC CONN.
There’s a guy in a cell on level 5 that says, “I’m Peter Petrelli”. And apparently, the guy who was originally in the cell changed bodies with Peter Petrelli. So, HE is in Peter’s body, and Peter’s body is in his. If Future Claire kills THAT Peter, then his body is just dead, while Peter is truly trapped in a cell on level 5.
Angela Petrelli sees this Future Peter and says to him, “You’re messing with the timeline again”.
Comic Conn SHOWED part of the season three PREMIERE. So go read it!!!!!
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Claire didn’t kill peter. Peter stopped time while the bullet was still in the air and went to the past to shoot Nathan. Go here for the video.
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just to get this info straight, is the preview the first episode of villans or is it just a short preview??…if its the short preview do please post it.
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It was the entire season 3 premier. Not just a preview.