Wow, this next episode is going to be incredible! I can’t wait! Wow, so Sylar is back to being a bad guy again… These last couple episodes as well as the ones coming up are goin’ to be really gritty. I’ll post again and iclude my theories of where this is going

You know, I have a lot of faith in Heroes.. But this season has been very up and down for me.. Its been very.. Everywhere if you understand what I mean.. I just seemed like… Nothing too special happened.. Hopefully next Volume of Heroes will be good..

I did like how Elle died.. If she did.. You never know if its true in Heroes lol.. But I’m pretty sure shes gone.. She was a good character and she was going to change Sylar.. But I kept telling everyone that Sylar was gonna become a bad guy once again lol.

Hopefully Peter gets his powers back.. And watching the Haitian do his stuff will be pretty awesome too. Nathan’s a bad guy now. And I guess we’ll have to see what happens with Claire and Hiro. I didn’t like Suresh in this season as well. His character just kind of went down the drain..

In the second tease it looks like Claire is talking to her father in the past! That could change everything.

I am still confused as to how Adam Monroe was able to live for so many centuries. With the revelation that powers are enabled by an eclipse, and blocked by the same event, wouldn’t Adam have gotten sick or had his body decay into nothing during an eclipse.

Surely an eclipse would have occurred at some point in the last few hundred years.

Oh well add it to the list of stories/characters with remaining questions. I love heroes but I am starting to realize that there are more questions then answers, which may ruin the show.

That last episode was prettty good. I think I was kind of getting used to the fact that Sylar was becoming a good guy though….oh well. Also, I think that Peter will get his powers back. But originally, his power was that he could absorb other peoples powers around him so I think he will be back to square one now and everyone he comes in contact with he will get those powers. We could be looking at a new and improved yet still very awesome Peter. And what was HRG talking about when he said that Arthur and Angela weren’t Sylar’s real parents? I hope that has a story behind it because I think that has a lot of potential to be a good storyline.

Prob a bad idea, but: maybe, claire was given her abilty, cause nathan dosent act have one it was given, so… maybe when they put the catalystin claire it gives here that abilty, so hwne she tells past HRG to answer it maybe all her jinjurys and burns will come back and she will drop dead? I HOPE NOT, but u never know, with some of the writing so far anything is possible

thought lastnights episode was another good one. i agree the 3 season has been all over the place form the past to the future to no powers, but i don’t feel that it has been great improvement from the strike shorten 2nd season and on the path to getting back to the greatness of season 1.

about this whole sylar killing elle thing. it makes no sense what so ever. what would be sylar’s reasoning for killing her? he already has her ability. the only other reason would be an attempt to see all of her secrets, but sylar has never been shown to be able to do (yet its heroes so who knows) and in the spoiler pic her head is still intact. there is only a thin line of blood where an incision was made. so who knows what is going on. i read a spoiler that said that the whole elle dying things is a cover up. what kind of cover up could this be? i just don’t see who they would be trying to confuse besides us, the viewers. maybe someone could shed some light onto this for me?

yeah, but he has shown the ability to somewhat control the hunger this season. plus his hunger is for more power, but he already has her power. the only logical reason i can come up with is regarding him wanting to know if she was lying or not about knowing who he is. as for bridget bailey’s power…it could be that it provides too much informational and may take too long to understand, but if you notice in the spoilers for episode 12 sylar is suppose to gain a unique ability. could it possible be that he will acquire the haitians ability which would allow him to access the memories of Angela without having to work through all of here history as he might have to with briget bailey’s power. also there is suppose to be encounter with Peter, the haitian and sylar. this would be an ideal opportunity for him to gain access to it.

to geoff didnt the reason adam lived till now was because even if he died in the eclipse he would heal the moment the eclipse was over

Maybe the reason Adam survived 400 years even with the eclipse is because he learnt what the eclipse does and moved to somewhere the eclipse only lasts a short amount of time, so quick that his body doesn’t have time to decay

To all the people saying, oh no. Why did Sylar kill Elle? Its because she was only a guest on the show, and obviously someone had to kill her didn’t they. Also, does anybody else think its stupid that we have till wait till around Feb next year just to see season 4. Its a joke, why can’t we just have a season like the first one, where there were 21 episode or so and then they make another season. It just crazy shortening them like that, i’m fed up of waiting for decent TV to come out.

As for why Sylar killed Elle, remember that when he gained her power, he did not have the expert control over it like he gets when he uses the brain technique, so he may have wanted that. There may be some point of revenge in it too, but more likely it is him just deciding that everyone around him betrays him and that he is better off alone.

Granted, it being Heroes and all, I guess there is possibly some diabolic scheme there that is either between Sylar and Angela or Sylar and Arthur.

@POP - volume 4 which make up the second half of season 3 is in feb not season 4. These no word on a 4th season.

I thought last nights episode was a solid A. I thought it to be real intersesting. I guess the randomness of Heroes is to rerpesent the randomness in life.

last night episode was the low point for me, the season started spectacularly but has kind of meandered down a devolved path.

The two eclipse episodes were completely pointless. nothing happened to advance the plot or the characters.

were back to where we were BEFORE the eclipse. except nathan did what weve all know he’d do since season one: put himself in the position to become the powerful political baddie.

and elle is dead…in a completely unexplainable way. awful. why did sylar kill her, anyone? the hunger? no. he had the hunger when they had that ‘electrifying moment’ when elle was in that cell. because he cant change? no, thats weak imo. this whole season his character has been about his struggling to change and then he just gives in like that? awful awful.

that african side story…completely unnecessary, useless and a waste of time.

think about it every other character is exactly where they were before the eclipse happened.

last two episodes were filler. it upsets me.

I think each episode is starting to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Any ideas on who the bike messenger is that Isaac gave his sketches to? Looks like they are trying to fill in the holes that we were all curious about.

the last few episodes of season 2 and this season have been a better plot and some better acting. also replying to the syler killing elle thing if u listened to what was said when watching it u should know why. his power is not just killing and taking powers from ppl his power makes him understand everything he opens brains and learns how other powers work then he can use them also his power gives him the ability to understand how all things work and he knew elle was lying and would betray him it wasnt out of hunger he vut the head open and left her usually u see him messing with the head when he does it

To mama3: The bike messenger was shown in season one. After isaac painted the pics of himself getting killed he gave his sketch book with the pic of peter and simone under the umbrella to the bike messenger who came to pic up the 9th wonders that shows hiro how to “kill” sylar. I just wonder if it’ll be the same actor when they find him.

First of all Briget Bailey’s power is to see the history of any “object” not person. Second, Sylar is killing Elle because thats who he is. Third, I dont think any eclipse gives them their powers. It has to be a special full eclipse.

When Hiro went back in time, an full eclipse occured, and Adam Monroe got his healing (and non-aging) power. Why? Well, I think he would have already knew if he had a healing power or not whenever he got hurt, right? So, that proves that he got his power because of the eclipse.

As for the other eclipses that occured, yes they might have taken his power away, but the eclipse that gave Peter, Hiro, Niki, Mat, etc. would have given his power back, thus he would have come back to life.

BUT, we dont know if every eclipse gives them their power. It has to be a special one. Afterall, this last eclipse lasted longer than normal ones, right?

I disagree strongly that season 3 is bad, I agree that Season 1 is the best though. Obviously, because it was the beginning where ordinary people all discovered they had extraordinary powers, niki’s character was very interesting, there was nice music, a mystery over the Sylar character, etc. Different stories that also were linked and then united. The finale of season 1 was just amazing. Season 1 was the beginning. Every beginning is always the best. Its very hard to beat the 1st season of a show.

SO STOP Comparing season 3 to season 1! As for Season 2. yes it was slow-paced, but you have to remember there was a writer’s strike, so season 3 was supposed to be combined with season 2….they had to shorten it.

On the bright side, volume 3 (Villains) and volume 4 (Fugitives) are combined, which will be interesting.

As for season 3, I admit it was a bit confusing at the beginning with future Peter putting present peter in Jesse Murphy’s body (with some body insertion power) and using illusion power to make him look like present Peter, and the Mr. Linderman ghost talking to Nathan, but that is supposed to create the mystery of this show. Make people ask questions and wonder. Suspense. It turns out it was Maury making the illusions. Thats part of his telepathy power.

Obviously, Maury figured out a way to get out of the nightmare Matt put him in in season 2, but if they had showed that, then we would have suspected that Mr. Linderman was an illusion…and thus would take a way the mystery….

Same with Future Peter and peter, we didn’t know what happened to Peter until he changed his appearance when he was with Matt in the closet (the part where he throws Matt in Africa).

Season 3 is getting better. Everything actually makes sense and everything that happens is significant. Sylar getting briget bailey’s power is going to be useful some time…u wait and see. Adam had to die to heal Arthut, and Maury had to die because he is very powerful, right? They cant have too many powerful villains around. Also, it made Daphne feel more guilty about what she has done as well.

It was a bit werid to think of Sylar as a good person. Not sure why they did that. They’ve obviosuly changed their minds because Sylar is back to being bad now that he discovers Arthur and Angela aren’t his parents. And his hunger comes back from the eclipse, and I think got him from surprise and probably forgot how to control it.

To be honest I think the whole “hunger for powers” thing was bullsht in the first place though. It has nothing to do with understanding how things work. It was just a cheesy move to make Sylar a good guy temporarily. Anyways, thats not important anymore, because he’s bad again.

Peter needed sylar’s ability to understand the variables to save the world. But that made him sorta bad guy with the hunger. Now, he’s powerless. But they did this to show that Peter doesn’t need his powers to be a hero.

That was the whole point of the eclipse as well. To make them powerless was to teach them all lessons. Nathan decides that some power was necessary in a world of evil, Daphne learned to forgive herself and make her past wrongs right, Hiro remembers that heroes exist to give hope to the hopeless, Mohinder learns that the evil brewing inside of him may not be a side effect of his injection and Sylar decides that no one can really ever change themself.

Trust me this show is going to get better. Just be patient and try to understand things. Sometimes, u need to watch an episode twice to understand what’s going on too.

@ anthony

bridgets power is the ability to see the past of anything, be it animal, vegetable or mineral. what do you think mrs. petrelli told her to get her in the room with sylar ‘the monster.’…’i want you to tell me the past of the table he is laying on?’…no. “i want you to tell me sylars past” just to get her in the room for sylar to take her ability.

think about it, mrs. petrelli knows she just gave sylar this ability. why would she ten turn around and tell sylar he is her son if it wasn’t true. that would be a bad play on angelas part and thats something she DOESNT do, shes calculating.

next, why would author also say sylar was his son, coincidence? no. he didn’t know angela told him that. and if he did, why play into it? he’d have an easy time getting sylar to his side by telling him angela lied.

to me honestly season three after the first couple of episodes is very weak, there is no mystery that makes me strongly want to find out. season 1 and two had that.

all the points the eclipse epiosdes that are suppose to be important have been broiling all season. Hiro didnt need the eclipse to remind him what a hero was, those comic books geeks helped him. daphne didnt need the eclipse she was well on her way to the point she is now, constantly beating herself up about it. claire…lets not even go there. mohinder already saw what a monster he was becoming when he drove maya away in the first place…why do we need another scene of realization, its a waste of film.

and yes we do have to compare this season to the first 2, if not the first two season of heroes then what? i agree though they cant do the ordinary people with extraordinary powers anymore, were past that.

on the subject of sylar and the eclipse effecting him…i call bull. hes been slowely ‘rehabilitating’ himself all season. were made to expect all his work is reversed by a possible lie by mr. bennet! Mr. lies himself. give me a break.

the fact he decided to be bad again by killing elle is even more ridiculous. because he is finally accepting who he is?

when In fact elle probably did more to get sylar to assume his own identity than anyone else, she even urges him and pushes him to be himself when she tells that rental guy that he kidnapped her.

it was out of left field her death, and completely out of character for sylar now,…nevermind his character now, its out of character for sylar from season one.

remember the line from season one “why would i kill them, i have nothing to gain!”

best thing to come out of the eclipse episodes…

1. nathan stop being a girl….maybe. and hopefully becomes the ‘baddie’ from volume 4…oh i hope so.

2. they gave a suggestion of how this eclipse was different by tying it to the david anders japanese one,…but in the same time destroy continuity by claiming all their powers first showed up during the eclipse… that is false

example:

claire; before the eclipse when she makes the cheerleading team
sylar; wow, before suresh was even in america
peter; when he jumped from the building
nathan; when he flew away from the car crash
etc.

bad. writing.

Thanks for the preview. Why is it Global seems to have better ones?

yeah that is true in THIS plot line andrew, im saying writing it that was weak. this could have been accomplished in such a more inventive way.

plus, does hero actually have his memory back? im not so sure. he calls sylar ‘bad-man’. quite childish.

oh… and by global i think he means the non-us previews (the second one here) usually tend to be longer, show more and show scene in a more exciting arrangement.

I’m worried about the Haitian. If Syler comes on the scene just after Peter kills Arthur, then who knows what Syler will do. The Haitian is my favorite character, and I don’t want Syler to kill him. Everything else though sounds good, mostly on Suresh’s story line which I haven’t liked very much so far in season three.

the hatian is awesome and i think he should play a bigger role in the show even though hes a guest star. i think season 3 is pretty good. it would b great if they fix all the writing flaws though. everything seems to b tying together. i knew they would make that bike messenger important. the writers must have planned 2 bring him back in eventually. it couldnt just b coincidence. mohinders character sux now i agree but i cant imagine any1 else narrating

Wow. I think this season is great. Yeah, there was some weird writing that didn’t make sense like some people mentioned above, but I think they did a great job. At the end of each episode I was left wanting to know what was going to happen. We finally found out more about the last generation, with Angela’s powers and Arthur’s. Also, we learned more about Linderman and maybe Kaito in Monday’s ep. They’ve revealed a lot of info this volume, but they can’t wrap up too much, or there would be nothing to look forward to. This volume was great and will definitely be one of my faves. I was so worried about the formula and how that was going to effect the show, plus Syler’s family tree. The writers are going in the right direction with the formula and as for Syler’s parents, I can’t wait to find out.

I loved this episode especially. I’m with Dudeman in that the Haitian is above awesome. He needs to become a series regular. I loved his back story and we finally got to see him kick butt. Peter and Nathan have toughened up, and that ending with Hiro popping in and out of the Bennett’s was priceless. I loved HRG and Sandra’s faces after it was done. Arthur’s parting shot to Mohinder when he returned back to the lab was really interesting. It makes me wonder for next volume. The comic store scene was funny, and Parkman and Daphne look to be solid now. I didn’t like her character in the beginning, but she’s grown on me. Syler killing Elle was not surprising. I think Syler’s so screwed up in the head now, that he no longer really needs a reason to kill. He is truly a monster now. All in all, great episode and looking forward to the next.

cant w8! i love this show, and i’ll watch it till the end, but when season 5 comes around i want a big new cast, with people who have talents outside of their abilities that would be awsome in case of anotha eclipse.
though i’ll miss elle we might see her in flashbacks, what interested me most was her past anyway.
when i see this epi im gonna shake from anticipation just like everytime i watched a new vol 1 epi, i can feel it!!!!!!!

where are you getting the fact that Elle died whils it wasnt shown in the last episode, it seems as if Sylar thought otherwise and gave a halt, i didnt see him killing Elle, we were left hanging so we have to wait for the confirmation

im posting this again cause no one got a chance to see it:

Prob a bad idea, but: maybe, claire was given her abilty, cause nathan dosent act have one it was given, so… maybe when they put the catalystin claire it gives here that abilty, so hwne she tells past HRG to answer it maybe all her jinjurys and burns will come back and she will drop dead? I HOPE NOT, but u never know, with some of the writing so far anything is possible

@ HG1399

No. Just. No. People saw it and were polite and didn’t comment.

I really appreciate what they are trying to do on the show. There are some problems but they are really trying to make progress. If you read in Behind the Eclipse some of the mistakes that are made are not from the writting but rather by the direction. But hey if your going to throw blame, throw it at the right people. The writers deffinitly have their downfalls too. But remember they have an idea of where the story is going while we can speculate and be mad at what we think is the situation, you never know what the true cause or reason is, until it’s revealed.

1. Elle is dead. Why?? Who cares? Sylar is a bad A again remember, that’s all we really wanted out of that situation.

2. Claire wasn’t given her ability. It’s possible for 1 normal hero and 1 created hero to make 1 baby hero. DL and Nikki created Micah. DL was a hero (that we know of) and Nikki was created. Merideth was a hero (that we know of) and Nathan was created.

Okay, I’m really getting tired of people complaining about all of the loop holes in season 3. Did it ever occur to anybody that maybe we don’t know as much as we thought we did? There are things that we’ve taken for granted that aren’t actually fact. We don’t know for sure that this particular eclipse is any ordinary eclipse, I think that this one is different. Sylar killing Elle made total sense. He had her power already, but virtually no control over it. When he cuts open people’s heads he understands how to use the poew properly, because he knows how it works. I think it was a brilliant move by the writers, but it’s unfortunite that it is getting critisized by people just because they don’t understand. Season 1 was incredible. The ultime best season of anything in television. Season 2 was a masterpiece, but because it was slow moving people hated it. Does anyone realize that volumes 2&3 were supposed to both be in season 2? It would actually have been a well balanced season. Volume 3 is very fast paced, and volume 2 is slow moving. The writers strike screwed everything up, though. Volume 3 has been everything that all of the whining critics of season 2 have asked for.

word andrew ..word..

Now just remember the volume 3 was going to be WAY different too.. but with alot of what we have seen mixed in.. i think it would have been a great complement to volume 2, and showed how awesome everything was set up. But instead it got thwarted. I don’t think that Heroes will be as good as what it was in Season 1. It’s going to be different, I don’t rember who said it but, we are past the average joe that has discovered they can do something ’special’. Now they are having to decide what they are going to do with it. I think the show is rolling well with a very bad hand they were delt with strike. Too many people are getting very negative about the show. It’s very sad and disappointing to see.

I see all these long posts and let me tell u this in a few simple words.

This volume is great ! The way how it builds up from season 2 is fenomenal! Sylar back, awesome though i got a little bit sad.
I love that peter has no powers, because he is now showing what he can do without them, but my guess; He is going to get them back and take out his brother and father !

THIS IS AWESOME !!

Sylar going back to evil is cool but disappointing, I liked learning more about him and seeing him grow as a character, and not just a psychopath. I was hoping he’d turn into that waffle-making father from the future, and that he really was Peter’s brother. Failed!

Well spoken AndrewK. i agree with everything u just said.

I still don’t understand how the eclipse took powers away when Hiro froze time AND teleported during one

What does taking Claire back to when Hiro’s Father gave Claire as a baby to Noah have to do with him (Hiro) getting his memory back? The eclipse must of just temporarily stop their powers because if it brought them back to the beginning to when their powers first manifested Sylar wouldn’t have the power to heal after the eclipse was over (because he got that power from Claire). So it must be a fact that this eclipse just temporarily took their powers away; which doesn’t explain why in Aurthur’s drawing and the comic book said ‘it’s coming”, What is coming?!!!!!! was this eclipse suppose to manifest a new power in Claire “The Catalyst”? And in the preview clip is Aurthur talking to Claire or Peter, when he says that “You’re here to kill me”. I’ve watched Heroes since Season one and I’m more confuse than ever. In the other seasons I didn’t feel this way, season 3 just doesn’t explain things clearly.