this is exciting, i hope peter gets his powers back after the eclipse. and dont kill sylar. peace out!

…Hayden’s wig looks horrible.

Well I’m hoping that somehow the eclipse will give Peter back his powers since it would be the opposite of whats happening to everyone else. What I don’t get is, how was it that the older heroes didn’t lose their powers when the first eclipse on the show happened? I think that’s one of the first major mistake on behalf of the writers I noticed.

WOW.
Claire was all “I wanna get hurt, I wanna get hurt, I wanna get hurt!”
And now she’s about to die. Tsk tsk, Claire, Claire…

I don’t know why everyone assumes that this eclipse is like any other before it…
Maybe this one is “special”. why would Arthur be unsettled at it’s coming?
That will definately explain why Adam survived for so long and why Arthur is making such a big deal about this eclipse.

Hmmm you’re right, if the eclipse affected the previous generation of heroes (and villains), ADAM would have been long dead. As for Claire, well then, maybe if she survives this one she would be thankful that she can’t feel pain… *pokes Claire with needle*

Can’t wait for next week, this has been an intense episode.

does anyone thinks its werid that before daphne was shown wearing her leg braces that she told her dad that “it” was happening again and that she needed something (i assume were the braces) again from her father? if she has lost her powers before how is that possible? also arthur has been threatning to return her to “how he found her”. does this mean that when he found her she did not have an ability or is it that he made her aware of her ability when she was use to being paralyzed? either way this is beginning to get interesting or filled with plot-holes.

wonder if HRG will actually take the shot? we know that sylar wont die since we have seen spoiler images of him in volume 4. plus he is a star of the show. as for elle, its a bit more complicated. she is suppose to be sylar’s baby mama, but who knows with this show. my bet is that the outcome of this fight will lead to sylar finally becoming a hero and will lead to person he will become in the future

HRG doesn’t shoot them, in the preview for the next episode we see Elle restrained and Sylar about to have his throat cut by HRG while Elle looks on and pleads “no”

in the newest graphic novel we see how Daphne discovers her powers and its during the last solar eclipse. the one that happened in season one….which DID NOT give any of the heroes we know from season one their powers, they had all discovered their powers BEFORE the eclipse.

in the GN we see that company guy come and visit daphne and her father just after she discovers her powers, she runs off…. sooo.

i have no clue what author is talking about ‘leave her how he found her’ but if he did take away her powers like she’s afraid of she’d be a cripple again.

to be honest i don’t think the writers really thought out this “eclipse” thing. Its screwing up continuity so horribly and has viewers who actually pay attention to the STORY-LINE and ORDER OF EVENTS scratching their heads saying… what?

and it seems they either don’t care, or don’t know how an eclipse work, like someone further up stated, eclipses only effect a certain portion of the globe at a time… the united states and africa would see the same thing.

its not the acting, or the story lines, or double crossing or any of that thats ruining this show slowly, very slowly for me… its the lack of continuity or rather the writers complete lack of ingenuity to make certain plot devices WORK.

their leaving huge plot holes all over the place in season 3 and in the process they’re destroying everything meaningful in season 1.

i’m losing hope in this show sadly, i’ll still watch, it’s better than most stuff on t.v. they’re just mangling it like the writers are writing some bizarre fan fiction of heroes.

rant over.

I am dissappointed also. I just watch to pass the time as opposed to watch because its a great show. I think the writing has gotten poor.

By the way, how many years of comic books are they printing. Maybe they should just go to the Publisher?

thanks for the clarifiaction and i couldn’t agree with you any more about the shows writers. heroes is probably my favorite network show, but the amount of plot holes is really starting to get unbearable. for me its seems that they lost a grip of the over story line after season 2 was cut short and are more interested in putting out an entertaining episode to capture ratings instead of developing a cohesive story line that would ultitametly save the show. unfortunately, it will be us, the true followers of the show, who will be lost if this crap continues.

also i saw that canadian spoiler in which HRG has captured both Elle and Sylar and he is about to cut Sylar’s throat, but i saw another image at heroesrevealed.com that shows Elle laying on the beach covered in blood with a line of blood across her skull as if Sylar had openned it up. also in the image is Sylar kneeling over her as her poor what looks to be gasoline on her in an attempt to burn her. looks like the whole Elle baby mama think might be out the window.

maybe it got to this point of ruination by all the complaining by fans last season by which they decided to change the complete stor line and now gaps have been created. just stop complaining and wining k!

ee

who’s complaining? i’m just voicing my opinion on the show and the last time i checked this was the forum to do. i have seen previous fourms where “fans” simply trash the show without any evidence to back them up. what i was trying to do was start a conversation regarding what appears to be off about the show this season. i am not like RICK who says he watches to pass time. i trully enjoy heroes and spent the last week rewatching all the previous episodes including the 2nd season trying to determine if its me or are there real contradictions in the story line and there are. will this stop me from watching the show? Hells no. so how about you “stop wining K! or maybe you should go watch some news

I think they are only going to be powerless while the eclipse goes on (It’s still a full eclipse at the end of the episode), after it they are probably getting them back and returning to normal. I hope Elle stays as a series regular!

i hate the part when elle had to shoot Claire but please dont take her out of the show she is tooo fun!!!

bread

that is exactly what i was getting at. also at the end of the spoiler for next weeks episode shows Claie doing the traditions gasp for air as she comes back to life. so we can be safe to assume that her powers and those of other heroes will come back, but i don’t believe it will bring back peter’s powers. he is shown in future images still using a gun to shoot Arthur. so i would guess that it will take more for him to regain his abililty.

Okay, I have a question.

If Isaac is dead, and has been, who’s writing the 9th Wonders comic book?

don’t worry fans, i will save the show.
i have special powers too.
my fingers can receive radio, tv and satelite signals.

i can also send data from my mind to computers.
i think i am what the show needs.

Seriously, i think the show is alright. lets face it, this is not a political affair where people vote and make a choice. this is a story written by people who want to and watched by others who wish to.

We all love the show that why we watch it. so why dont we just let the writers show whats on their mind. if you don’t like it you can ……….

Come back peter

Also, I ponder if when the eclipse is over, will they (meaning the Petrelli guys, Arthur, Peter and Sylar) go back to their original powers? No add ons, they have to re-acquire all that they got? And if that’s the case, will Arthur go back to being comatose?

I don’t think arthur will revert back to being comatose b/c he has already healed himself of that a few episodes back. it will only affect him going forward

Umm… I was wondering where are these comic book issues coming from? Are these the one that Isaac Mendez handed over to another guy when he was about to die? If so, then after his death the future has changed a lot of times, then how can the comic books still be so accurate?

ok ok ok. correc me if im wrong. ive been saying this show is going down for months.. and now all you people finally agree with me. wo i watch this show religously. and i no a otta of the events that are takin place are off an the eclipse is wring.but everbody nos this already. the writrs all of em need to be fired cause they are messing tings up. the obviously dont pay attention to there own show. they must be on somethin good and just jottin down any thought andthen filming it. as soon as itwas thought up. listen to me and lsten close. get off the drugs. rewatch the first two seasons. and all of the 3rd. get some sober writers. that no how to think. and just fix the show. how hard is that to do. i mean. i could i even gve my real name cell phone number. and house adress to these people and said i would work for free. and got noresponse. so do they care about there job/ obvisouy NOT

ok ok ok. correc me if im wrong. ive been saying this show is going down for months.. and now all you people finally agree with me. wo i watch this show religously. and i no a lotta of the events that are takin place are off an the eclipse is wrong.but everbody nos this already. the writrs all of em need to be fired cause they are messing tings up. the obviously dont pay attention to there own show. they must be on somethin good and just jottin down any thought andthen filming it. as soon as it was thought up. listen to me and lsten close. get off the drugs. rewatch the first two seasons. and all of the 3rd. get some sober writers. that no how to think. and just fix the show. how hard is that to do. i mean. i could i even gve my real name cell phone number. and house adress to these people and said i would work for free. and got no response . so do they care about there job/ obvisouy NOT

no way, isaac was the one with creators rights to 9th wonders. its the same style of comic art as well. its still isaac’s comic… but how it still is predicting the future accurately is beyond me.

the future has changed so many times.

speaking of that… i don’t think we’ll ever see a future noah as Sylar’s son. the present has been screwed up so much from what it was suppose to be by peter that i don’t think the future we saw in that episode can even be counted on to happen in entirety. such some things may happen. nathan may turn into the bad guy president, but he’s been poised to make that step since the first season.

that scene on the beach i believe is Sylar ‘cremating’ Elle. I don’t think he killed her, but he’s showing her reverence in death. thats symbolic he has never shown any sort of respect to the dead before. especially his own kills.

i think they both turn on author in the next two episodes, especially our father.

and author learns of this, kills Elle to show Sylar hes not one to be screwed with. He’ll kill her in a Sylar way just to show his superiority and to mess with his head. mr. petrelli seems to be very fond of that. after of which we’ll see the dead elle scene.

Sylar will go fight mr. petrelli alone and get a whopping. Cue in peter and the haitian. Author realizes his power are gone. peter tries to shoot author but doesn’t have the guts so sylar takes the gun and shoots author in the head.

bang!

I don’t get why sylar is cremating Elle for. Saintjust21 i like your theory on Elle’s dead and the idea of Arthur killing her in a sylar fashion is very interesting. my only question is if the top of her head was cut off ala sylar why is it shown attached in the spoiler pic. for some reason i doubt she will die, but arthur killing her would explain why sylar would attack arthur since he seems to trying so hard for his approval.

also i’m not sure which volume of 9th wonders! was Hiro goes to the future, but according to Issac that was the final issue he would write. this is the issue that depicted how to kill sylar. it could be possible that the issues we are seeing not are previous issues, but Issac unaware of his abililty at the time did not know that he was actually painting teh future. does that make sense?

I think yhe series as a whole is going well, byu

I think the reason Peter told Nathan that he got his power during the eclipse in Season 1 is because Nathan never hared hisfirst flight experience with anyone and doesn’t even realize he flew imself. Also, I believe this eclipse is special, and that the Heroes are assuming they get or lose their powers on eclipses. Another thing, we don’t know Daphne’s full story so just be quiet, and wait for more info. (Most likely we’ll find out in the next few Graphic Novels and maybe next episode.) These plot holes will be filled up whether or not they were purposeful or caused by bad writing.

This show used to be good and then the writing went downhill. There needs to be some type closure on some of the issues, the show is beginning to put me to sleep. Is Sylar good or bad? When is Syresh going to die, he’s annoying. Also, at what point does anyone figure out there are people with powers out there?? Come on, the show drags on…the Asian guys, enough!! Can the guy get his mind back before my girlfriend reaches in and chokes him with his annoying high pitched screams?? Sorry, I loved the show but they have ‘jumped the shark’ in more ways than one.

All I can say, is Wow. This was the heroes that I remember, Peter and Nathan fighting, I know we want them to be the cool bros, but I always loved there fights, the good thing about their argument this time was both were like don’t fu– with me or i will fight you. Normally Nathan is more reserved, but last night he was like, bro slow your role cause I will kick your young but. anybody else peep that. Not that I like drama, but i just thought it was cool. It was like we had a chance to see a more agressive side of nathan, some of that military officer training he has. Peter still my boy, but you go Nathan.

OK. Here’s What I got to Say For ONE if u dont like the Show Heres a Solution DONT WATCH IT
2. uf u LOVE it and its kind of tradition to watch it evry monday then
I agree with some of you there R some flaws but the whole 9th wonders thing Maybe its another twist of WHo’s Writing the new ones
3.DUH!!! maybe the Eclipse is S.P.E.C.I.A.L
4. Of Cpurse the heroes are going to get their powers back the Show is Called HEROES not CIVILLIANS.
5. Tim Kring wrote 7 sesions so he has mostly everything planned out Except end of Season 2 and Half of Season 3 but he has season 4,5,6 and 7 planned out….ok Listen to the commentary watch the Special features in Season 1 dvd Reply PEACE

As a whole i think the show is alright, i just hope they don’t “smallville” it.
Which means endless dialogues moaning and wining about this and that.
Just show some major asswhooping.
I also hope they will wrap up some storylines/plotdevices.
I don’t think that arthur’s power is infallable, i believe that the powers of peter, arthur and sylar are the same as for what they do only the character’s behaviour or misdemeanour determines how it works.
Peter as a whole is a nice character and so his powers are gained by simply being around it ,Arthur however is a harsh and rigid character and takes power by force(he could do it the peter way but because of his character he does it like he does it now), that’s why i don’t believe Peter’s powers are all gone, i just think that his cell’s or tissue are damaged by the way arthur took his power(s) and that it takes only time before Peter get’s his powers back.
Sylar is a bit of both(that’s why they probably called him Gabriel GRAY as in morally gray)he is capable of terrible evil but also some good that’s why i believe he can take and absorb powers.
If peter and arthur are Yin and Yang then sylar is the place where black and white meet being neither white nor black.
The fact that the 9th wonders comicbooks are still coming out, could mean a couple of things;
-plothole; which i don’t believe, because it would be to big of a mistake.Like making a starwars movie with a purple yoda
-Isaac Mendez drew them all which means that everything is set in stone and people’s choices are predetermined, which i find also highly unplausible
-there are more precogs who contribute to the comicbook scattered over the world my guess is nine in total(because of the title of the comic) and i think that hiro nakamura’s dad set the joint up because he knew his son would read them(remember Kaito was able to juggle a lot of variables at the same time which is almost as good as precog maybe even better because he also knows the reason why stuff happens which will give him a better understanding of how things develope) and someone like Arthur would never read a comicbook…which is his folly.
I believe that this is the reason why the comicbooks are still being printed…

Sorry for the lenghty post

ok I shall take a stab at some of the continuity issues.

As I already said, I think it is possible that another precog may have had similar visions to Issac, saw the 9th Wonder comics, and ended up talking to the publication company around the time of Issac’s death and taking over, which to me sounds entirely plausible.

I am not entirely sure of this, but I think Nathan never really told many people about him flying that first time and/or it is possible that in the moment of argument that Peter and Nathan forgot about that incident being before the last eclipse.

As for the eclipse itself, this one is probably special in some way since it is a global event and not localized and is taking away powers, which other ones seem to have not done before. Other eclipses may have acted as enhancers, making people who had powers more likely to notice them (remember there is a link to emotions and adrenaline as well to the powers) or cause those who hadn’t “manifested” to start, but was not necessarily a requirement for powers to manifest. Maybe this eclipse (and I know this part is a bit of a stretch)is only noticed by those with powers (no news or non powered characters seem to mention anything about this eclipse and it’s oddity) and thus may not be a true eclipse and might be why it is taking away powers instead of enhancing them like normal.

Well- I agree with everyone about plot holes, but I think sometimes, unfortunately, even good shows make mistakes and I think if you are truly a fan, you try to just ignore the holes and go with the story. Next week looks exciting. Can’t wait to see what happens with Elle and Sylar.

heroes it’s a show for smart people if you don’t undestand & you think they make a mistake. you wrong.the eclipse only takes the powers temporary,eclipse gone, powers come back. SPOILERS claire dies & sylar gets kill by noah in front of elle. but then when the eclipse it’s over they come back to life.ok guys whinning like claire just enjoy the show. NOTHING IT’S BETTER THAN HEROES RIGHT NOW. HEROESFOREVER

Judging from the promo pics, Claire won’t be in the hospital for long. In the pics, she is clearly headed into battle with HRG presumably with Sylar and Elle or something along those lines. The preview shows her in the hospital. So she doesn’t die(already knew that). Like someone said, she probably died(literally) for a while and then when the eclipse goes away, she will be fine. Why does Elle have Claire’s mom hostage when she has no powers or she might have them then( again judging from the pics). If you have no idea what I am saying, I suggest looking at the pics and then trying to help me answer or ponder these things.