October 9th, 2008
Discussion Thread: Heroes Season 3 Episode 5 (3.05) Angels and Monsters
So who are the angels and who are the monsters on Heroes? Is it even possible to tell the two apart anymore, especially in light of Peter’s return from the future as shown in last week’s episode, “I am Become Death”? And what’s the deal with Mohinder? Or is the better question, what exactly is he becoming that he needs to hide himself in the dark? Meanwhile, Nathan Petrelli and Tracy Strauss have gotten real comfy lately; will a trip to see Mommy at The Company’s secret prison further their relationship? Probably not. And look who is back — or is he, really? Remember, there are people with powers to make you see what they want you to see on Heroes… Here, then, is your official discussion thread for this week’s episode, 3.05, titled, “Angels and Monsters”.
SEVERAL HEROES STAND AT MAJOR CROSSROADS, FACING PERSONAL DECISIONS THAT COULD REDEFINE WHO’S “GOOD” OR “EVIL” — CLAIRE (HAYDEN PANETTIERE) ATTEMPTS TO TAKE DOWN HER FIRST NEW VILLIAN
Armed with H.R.G.’s (Jack Coleman) old files and a taser, Claire (Hayden Panettiere) attempts to take down her first target — Stephen Canfield (Andre Royo), a Level 5 escapee with the ability to create black holes — unaware that others are closing in. Meanwhile, in horror, Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) flees from all the death and destruction in the future, only to grimly discover how deeply the experience has changed him. Frustrated that Adam Monroe (guest star David Anders) didn’t get them closer to “the formula,” Hiro (Masi Oka) takes a stab at becoming friends with Daphne (guest star Brea Grant) and new associate Knox (guest star Jaime Hector), much to Ando’s (James Kyson Lee) dismay. Later, Suresh’s (Sendhil Ramamurthy) urge to correct research errors puts Maya (Dania Ramirez), among others, in a sticky situation. Linderman (guest star Malcolm McDowell) advises Nathan (Adrian Pasdar) to stick by Tracy (Ali Larter), seeing that they could accomplish great things together. In Africa, Matt (Greg Grunberg) sees his vision of “happily ever after” destroyed.
Alan Blumenfeld, Ashley Crow, Jessalyn Gilsig, Brea Grant, Jamie Hector, David H. Lawrence XVII and Andre Royo guest star.
Complete Episode 3.05 Preview, including Promo images and videos
Heroes Forum Discussion Thread





can’t wait!
Angela: “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!” XD
Wow, that must HURT!
And why the hell is Sylar standing there doing nothing?
Please oh Please do not kill of Angela Pitrelli! We finally find out her power, but a while back there were comics about a woman with black hair who possessed the power to steal peoples powers with a blue ray from her hand I thought Angela was that woman its a shame she wasnt because I think that Precognitive Dreaming isn’t a power that satisfies Angela’s storyline!
So we have 2 characters traveling into the future, 3 characters who can paint the future, and one character who can dream the future. I’m surprised we haven’t somehow seen the final episode yet.
i love that you thought that, thats what i was just saying the other night! she is WAY to snow queen for that to be her only power……
damn. so sylar let peter just open up angela’s brain?
eh. that’s stupid.
no really.
i thought gabriel the angel likes his mom.
and hates his peter monster brother
see. it really rhymes
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Mig, you don’t know that he’ll actually open up her head. All you see is him pointing his finger. It’s silly to extrapolate the contents of an entire scene from a single frame, so save your whining until after you’ve seen it.
Pete likes to keep it in the family…I think his hunger hits him when he reads minds. We all know to get anything out of Angela that resembles truth you have to read her mind.
Sylar’s in the back waiting for his turn…Share and share a like boys I’m positive Angela would have instilled these values in her kids.
I wouldn’t say Angela was done not by a long shot…No way her power is just dreaming the future, I have never bought into that one at all!…One of her kids has the same hunger as Linda from the GN, she told Syler she knows about it too, The GN ended saying Linda was an Angel she is killed by Linderman the healer? And her name is Angela?
You couldn’t be more obvious about Angela being Linda if she wore a name tag that says Linda on it.
Uluru can only be…Mr. Muggles?, of course it makes perfect sense!
Mr. Muggles can see that soon Lyle will go upstairs NEVER to come back down he will disappear into that mystical void where all pointless characters go. Poor kid he must have the hardest time at school; the actor I mean.
Lyle says one word and Clair tells him to shut up, or his mother says go to your room; (sigh) just bored, sorry for the rant.
You KNOW that this is going to happen in the first five minutes.
So I was thinking how Linderman coming back from the dead was a really dumb storyline only because it seems like this show can never keep a person dead which kinda pisses me off. After looking at previews for next week and the promo photos I had a really cool theory pop into my head that has probably been said before but here goes. Making people see dead people is papa Petrelli’s power so that way he can pull everyones strings without it being known it’s actually him.
jesse, i like your theory about papa petrelli. even more interesting is this, ive been reading in other discussion threads that his power is manipulating the genetic code. if that is the case could he then give himself another ability.
also i like how peter is going to be a little dark for a while because if these abilities were real good and evil wouldn’t be so cut and dry like it is in all the superhero movies, thats what makes heroes so good.
one thing that still bugs me and i know im not the first to ask this question but how did future peter get the scar, does anyone know
SCAR…yeah the scar remember when hiro went to the future..Peter has also that scar..the same scar..whats about that scar after all..maybe to determine he is the future peter lol…
i mean hiro going in the future in season 1..
watching the show right now… Can anyone tell me why the company is not still keeping tabs on mohinder. isn’t the lab set up with camera’s????
Holy sh*t! Did Hiro really just kill Ando??? I never saw that one coming.
This episode is the best so far. I can’t believe that Hiro stabbed Ando with a sword! I was so shocked when the guy who can create black holes killed himself.
wow, this is crazy, definitely not what I was expecting!!!
INTENSE!
oh snap! This is sweeeeeet! I cannot wait for next week!!!! So Hiro must go back and teleport ando to safety. That was crazy… I knew Parkmans dad had to be up to something. Wonder why he is serving Papa petrellie. He must be one bad ass dude to have that powerful of people doing his will. I need to go and chill after that. take amoment and think.
best episode!!!!! wow!
All I can say about this episode is WOW! I wasnt expecting alot of stuff to happen. Now I can see papa petrelli is the puppetmaster who has been pulling everyones string since the beginning.
OH NO!!!Ando cant be DEAD!!!!
so next episodewe will see the Villain team?
epsisode was awesome, you gotta feel bad for the Vortex guy
isnt it funny that papa petrelli founded pinehearst i mean he helped found the original company too didnt he. i hope they explain that eventually.
actually i was just thinking could it be that angela and the other founders tried to kill arthur petrelli but somehow he survived and formed pinehearst.
i already can’t wait until next week i mean it looks awsome.
OMG Ando dead!!!!!! and the vortex guy had a sweet power. and merdith is with the puppet guy o god. this is getting serious