Discussion Thread: Heroes Season 3 Episode 5 (3.05) Angels and Monsters

Posted on October 9, 2008 by Sam

So who are the angels and who are the monsters on Heroes? Is it even possible to tell the two apart anymore, especially in light of Peter’s return from the future as shown in last week’s episode, “I am Become Death”? And what’s the deal with Mohinder? Or is the better question, what exactly is he becoming that he needs to hide himself in the dark? Meanwhile, Nathan Petrelli and Tracy Strauss have gotten real comfy lately; will a trip to see Mommy at The Company’s secret prison further their relationship? Probably not. And look who is back — or is he, really? Remember, there are people with powers to make you see what they want you to see on Heroes… Here, then, is your official discussion thread for this week’s episode, 3.05, titled, “Angels and Monsters”.

SEVERAL HEROES STAND AT MAJOR CROSSROADS, FACING PERSONAL DECISIONS THAT COULD REDEFINE WHO’S “GOOD” OR “EVIL” — CLAIRE (HAYDEN PANETTIERE) ATTEMPTS TO TAKE DOWN HER FIRST NEW VILLIAN

Armed with H.R.G.’s (Jack Coleman) old files and a taser, Claire (Hayden Panettiere) attempts to take down her first target — Stephen Canfield (Andre Royo), a Level 5 escapee with the ability to create black holes — unaware that others are closing in. Meanwhile, in horror, Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) flees from all the death and destruction in the future, only to grimly discover how deeply the experience has changed him. Frustrated that Adam Monroe (guest star David Anders) didn’t get them closer to “the formula,” Hiro (Masi Oka) takes a stab at becoming friends with Daphne (guest star Brea Grant) and new associate Knox (guest star Jaime Hector), much to Ando’s (James Kyson Lee) dismay. Later, Suresh’s (Sendhil Ramamurthy) urge to correct research errors puts Maya (Dania Ramirez), among others, in a sticky situation. Linderman (guest star Malcolm McDowell) advises Nathan (Adrian Pasdar) to stick by Tracy (Ali Larter), seeing that they could accomplish great things together. In Africa, Matt (Greg Grunberg) sees his vision of “happily ever after” destroyed.

Alan Blumenfeld, Ashley Crow, Jessalyn Gilsig, Brea Grant, Jamie Hector, David H. Lawrence XVII and Andre Royo guest star.

Links of Interest:
Complete Episode 3.05 Preview, including Promo images and videos
Heroes Forum Discussion Thread

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  • Jay

    can’t wait!

  • Jay

    can’t wait!

  • SnakeHead

    Angela: “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!” XD

    Wow, that must HURT!
    And why the hell is Sylar standing there doing nothing?

  • SnakeHead

    Angela: “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!” XD

    Wow, that must HURT!
    And why the hell is Sylar standing there doing nothing?

  • Master Z

    Please oh Please do not kill of Angela Pitrelli! We finally find out her power, but a while back there were comics about a woman with black hair who possessed the power to steal peoples powers with a blue ray from her hand I thought Angela was that woman its a shame she wasnt because I think that Precognitive Dreaming isn’t a power that satisfies Angela’s storyline!

    • Destro 24

      So we have 2 characters traveling into the future, 3 characters who can paint the future, and one character who can dream the future. I’m surprised we haven’t somehow seen the final episode yet.

    • Destro 24

      So we have 2 characters traveling into the future, 3 characters who can paint the future, and one character who can dream the future. I’m surprised we haven’t somehow seen the final episode yet.

      • macmikey

        ;-) Nice.

    • laura

      i love that you thought that, thats what i was just saying the other night! she is WAY to snow queen for that to be her only power……

  • Master Z

    Please oh Please do not kill of Angela Pitrelli! We finally find out her power, but a while back there were comics about a woman with black hair who possessed the power to steal peoples powers with a blue ray from her hand I thought Angela was that woman its a shame she wasnt because I think that Precognitive Dreaming isn’t a power that satisfies Angela’s storyline!

    • Destro 24

      So we have 2 characters traveling into the future, 3 characters who can paint the future, and one character who can dream the future. I’m surprised we haven’t somehow seen the final episode yet.

      • macmikey

        ;-) Nice.

    • laura

      i love that you thought that, thats what i was just saying the other night! she is WAY to snow queen for that to be her only power……

  • mig

    damn. so sylar let peter just open up angela’s brain?

    eh. that’s stupid.
    no really.

    i thought gabriel the angel likes his mom.
    and hates his peter monster brother

    see. it really rhymes :) )

    • Casey the Great

      Mig, you don’t know that he’ll actually open up her head. All you see is him pointing his finger. It’s silly to extrapolate the contents of an entire scene from a single frame, so save your whining until after you’ve seen it.

  • mig

    damn. so sylar let peter just open up angela’s brain?

    eh. that’s stupid.
    no really.

    i thought gabriel the angel likes his mom.
    and hates his peter monster brother

    see. it really rhymes :) )

    • Casey the Great

      Mig, you don’t know that he’ll actually open up her head. All you see is him pointing his finger. It’s silly to extrapolate the contents of an entire scene from a single frame, so save your whining until after you’ve seen it.

  • Boogieman

    Pete likes to keep it in the family…I think his hunger hits him when he reads minds. We all know to get anything out of Angela that resembles truth you have to read her mind.

    Sylar’s in the back waiting for his turn…Share and share a like boys I’m positive Angela would have instilled these values in her kids.

    I wouldn’t say Angela was done not by a long shot…No way her power is just dreaming the future, I have never bought into that one at all!…One of her kids has the same hunger as Linda from the GN, she told Syler she knows about it too, The GN ended saying Linda was an Angel she is killed by Linderman the healer? And her name is Angela?

    You couldn’t be more obvious about Angela being Linda if she wore a name tag that says Linda on it.

  • Boogieman

    Pete likes to keep it in the family…I think his hunger hits him when he reads minds. We all know to get anything out of Angela that resembles truth you have to read her mind.

    Sylar’s in the back waiting for his turn…Share and share a like boys I’m positive Angela would have instilled these values in her kids.

    I wouldn’t say Angela was done not by a long shot…No way her power is just dreaming the future, I have never bought into that one at all!…One of her kids has the same hunger as Linda from the GN, she told Syler she knows about it too, The GN ended saying Linda was an Angel she is killed by Linderman the healer? And her name is Angela?

    You couldn’t be more obvious about Angela being Linda if she wore a name tag that says Linda on it.

  • Boogieman

    Uluru can only be…Mr. Muggles?, of course it makes perfect sense!

    Mr. Muggles can see that soon Lyle will go upstairs NEVER to come back down he will disappear into that mystical void where all pointless characters go. Poor kid he must have the hardest time at school; the actor I mean.

    Lyle says one word and Clair tells him to shut up, or his mother says go to your room; (sigh) just bored, sorry for the rant.

  • Boogieman

    Uluru can only be…Mr. Muggles?, of course it makes perfect sense!

    Mr. Muggles can see that soon Lyle will go upstairs NEVER to come back down he will disappear into that mystical void where all pointless characters go. Poor kid he must have the hardest time at school; the actor I mean.

    Lyle says one word and Clair tells him to shut up, or his mother says go to your room; (sigh) just bored, sorry for the rant.

  • J

    You KNOW that this is going to happen in the first five minutes.

  • J

    You KNOW that this is going to happen in the first five minutes.

  • Jesse

    So I was thinking how Linderman coming back from the dead was a really dumb storyline only because it seems like this show can never keep a person dead which kinda pisses me off. After looking at previews for next week and the promo photos I had a really cool theory pop into my head that has probably been said before but here goes. Making people see dead people is papa Petrelli’s power so that way he can pull everyones strings without it being known it’s actually him.

  • Jesse

    So I was thinking how Linderman coming back from the dead was a really dumb storyline only because it seems like this show can never keep a person dead which kinda pisses me off. After looking at previews for next week and the promo photos I had a really cool theory pop into my head that has probably been said before but here goes. Making people see dead people is papa Petrelli’s power so that way he can pull everyones strings without it being known it’s actually him.

  • Ryan

    jesse, i like your theory about papa petrelli. even more interesting is this, ive been reading in other discussion threads that his power is manipulating the genetic code. if that is the case could he then give himself another ability.

    also i like how peter is going to be a little dark for a while because if these abilities were real good and evil wouldn’t be so cut and dry like it is in all the superhero movies, thats what makes heroes so good.

    one thing that still bugs me and i know im not the first to ask this question but how did future peter get the scar, does anyone know

    • Pete

      SCAR…yeah the scar remember when hiro went to the future..Peter has also that scar..the same scar..whats about that scar after all..maybe to determine he is the future peter lol…

      • Pete

        i mean hiro going in the future in season 1..

      • Pete

        i mean hiro going in the future in season 1..

  • Ryan

    jesse, i like your theory about papa petrelli. even more interesting is this, ive been reading in other discussion threads that his power is manipulating the genetic code. if that is the case could he then give himself another ability.

    also i like how peter is going to be a little dark for a while because if these abilities were real good and evil wouldn’t be so cut and dry like it is in all the superhero movies, thats what makes heroes so good.

    one thing that still bugs me and i know im not the first to ask this question but how did future peter get the scar, does anyone know

    • Pete

      SCAR…yeah the scar remember when hiro went to the future..Peter has also that scar..the same scar..whats about that scar after all..maybe to determine he is the future peter lol…

      • Pete

        i mean hiro going in the future in season 1..

  • Xerox

    watching the show right now… Can anyone tell me why the company is not still keeping tabs on mohinder. isn’t the lab set up with camera’s????

  • Xerox

    watching the show right now… Can anyone tell me why the company is not still keeping tabs on mohinder. isn’t the lab set up with camera’s????

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