Discussion Thread: Heroes Season 4 Episode 1/2 (4.01/4.02) Orientation / Jump, Push, Fall

It’s been a long and dull Summer without Heroes, but after a long wait, the show returns for its fourth season tomorrow night, Monday, September 21st, with a two-hour premiere consisting of the first and second episode of Season 4, “Orientation” and “Jump, Push, Fall”. New heroes, new villains, and new storylines are expected in Volume 5: “Redemption”. This is your official Heroes Season 4 Episode 4.01 and 4.02 Discussion Thread.

“VOLUME FIVE: REDEMPTION” MAKES A SPECIAL TWO-HOUR DEBUT WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF A MYSTERIOUS CARNIVAL CLAN WHOSE INTENTIONS ARE UNKNOWN, WHILE FAMILIAR FACES ADJUST TO NEW STAGES OF THEIR LIVES THAT WILL CHALLENGE THEIR PERCEPTIONS OF THE WORLD AND THEIR ABILITIES.

Claire (Hayden Panettiere) struggles with adjusting to her new life in college when a mysterious death thrusts her into the spotlight once again. Elsewhere, Hiro (Masi Oka) and Ando (James Kyson Lee) continue their noble quest to help people by promoting their abilities. Angela (Cristine Rose) fears Nathan (Adrian Pasdar) will soon discover his true identity; while Matt (Greg Grunberg) is haunted by an unexpected visitor seeking something he has lost. Tracy Strauss (Ali Larter) and H.R.G. (Jack Coleman) join forces, looking for the key to unlock the motive behind a horrific crime. Meanwhile, Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) uses his abilities for good, but he is soon called upon to aid an old friend. While the heroes adjust to their new surroundings, a mysterious carnival clan, led by ringleader Samuel (Robert Knepper), sets their sights on familiar faces.

Rachel Melvin, Jimmy Jean-Louis, Ashley Crow, Lisa Lackey, Assaf Cohen, and Saemi Nakamura guest star.

Preview Video:

Links of Interest:
Complete Episode 4.01/4.02 Preview, including Promo images and Videos
Heroes Forum Discussion Thread


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  • Wildheart

    I hope it will be as good as the first season, they have made it sound good so far.

  • asfandyar

    I'm only interested in peter getting his power back, and if gets them than the show will get very interesting.

  • CaleMichael

    I'm sure it will be good enough… and who cares about a “few” plotholes? its still a good story…

  • Tarot1

    I'm counting the hours! :)

  • L2S

    wen is the premier being telecasted?? i mean at wat time n wat place ..

  • l2s

    wen is the premier being telecasted?? i mean at wat time n wat place ..

  • kinggenesis

    nbc at 8 eastern time

  • jemshacon

    I am in Scotland, and have been waiting patiently for weks to see heroes episode 5, it is now 21.48 and it still hasn't come on yet so which channel and at what time will it start? heroesfan4eva

  • 5ylar

    Dude it starts in the US tonight, us in the UK have to wait until after xmas sometime before its on our tv. Just watch it online somewhere tomorrow

  • devilishlysas

    I watched it online from the UK was awesome :) a real step back to season 1 quality, but then I'm biased i've always liked the show, but there was something fresh, deep and oddly foreboding about it. Can't wait for more. Although one thing… the carnival – all I can think is when they were talking about pushing/collecting people to their side, reminded me way to much of pokemon lol, which made me chuckle somewhat innapropriately.

  • heykey4

    I, overall, was very positive about the season premeire. It has potential….but I've been dissapointed before.

    With Hiro's mission to make right what once went wrong….I was expecting “Quantum Leap” references in Hiro & Ando's dialoge like all the “Star Trek” references from seasons past.

  • Angelo

    I am so discusted with this show, I'm fed up. Again they make all the charecters stupid. Example one Instead of Matt telling the guy he found a new route anyone of us who had Matt's ability would have read his wifes mind to see what happened and what his and her intensions were. Example 2: Claire, Again she is stupid going to test her theory at a coledge no less and for those of us who went to coledge we know there are eyes everywhere so once again Clair shows her ability and yet again Daddy is going to fix it. This whole Sylar thing is stupid Now Sylar is only in Matt's head come on give me a break Eventualy Nathan is going to be gone from the show because he was supposed to have died when Sylar Slit his throat.No wounder Bryan Fuller left the show. I would 2. They have gone so far off base from Season one, that this has 2 be the last season , before they embarress themselves.

  • Anonymous

    i notice the biggest thing that is wrong with this show is looking at the spoilers there is just to many i think there should be some to get your interest but i have seen everything coming for the first 3 shows other than that i have high hopes for this season i am a huge heroes fan the only things i don’t like is the few holes in the story but i over look that and the fact hiro may die this season as his is my favorite but i think the story is going a little slow but this is a good thing since season 1 story went slow i think this is a good sign for this season. but back to the spoilers if you know what is coming then the show isn’t as exciting unless you are a hopeless heroes fan like me who just has to know what happens next

  • navygater

    Well Angeloooooooooh boowho,
    If I had Matt's power I would feel alot less guilty about telling that guys to find a diff rout then breaking a promise I made to my wife and reading here mind so you are wrong there. As far as Claire well she has always been alittle dumb since season 1 so nothing new there her character stays true to the story. Sylar being in Matt's head is amazing!!!! That is by far the most interesting thing that has happend to Matt in Heroes since he figured out he could tell people what to do with his powers! Over all a great start to a new season, so if your lost and don't understand whats going on Angelo either start from the beginning again and pay attentuion this time or ask any of us ( the true heroes fans ) about what you don't understand or can't believe….

  • Angelo

    First off I'm one of the biggest Heroes fans out there. Second Your whole concept of Matt is so far off base. I'll break it down for you so you can understand all you have to do is keep up.

    First off he never made a promise all he said was he wasn't using his powers like that because he didn't like who he was becoming and feeling like. later in the show we relized why because sylar was in his head.

    Second you must not be married, any married man in todays world when his wife cheated on him is not going to tell a guy in not so many words to step off. you will find out if your wife is lying to your face and is up to her old tricks meaning sleeping around no guy who has matt's ability will just use his ability to convay to him to stay away. A man in his position would find it out. Again, he made no promise to his wife so go back and catch up on it.

    Third Clair. Clair for 4 yrs now has had no real point to the show, other than being an airhead. Staying true to the story line is what's wrong with the show with Clair. (dummy) They have to Evolve Clair, she is in Coledge now, Time to move with the times…She needs to grow up and find her purpose in the world of Heroes. I know you can't be as Brain Dead as you make your self out to be. For one moment think outside the box. The Prolblem with the show is they have writters thinking like you. You can't go back to Season 1 you have to move forward, and it seems like all the Charecters Personna is of Season 1. I think it is you Navygater that don't understand where the show is going. You keep thinking like it is Season 1. Not 1 of these charecters have Evolved. They are still acting like it is there first day with these powers. And if I'm not Mistakend That is exactly what Bryan Fuller Said on Inside Hollywood. And why He left. The show wasn't moving forward , it kept wanting to go back to Season 1. So in closing before you Cast Loyalty out make sure you have your ducks in a row. Follow up on Stories Back check before you post. Because you just made yourself look Stupid with your Non-factuall Statements of the show.

    • Anonymous

      Everything he has said is opinion, not fact.
      and the fact that you’re paraphrasing Bryan Fuller just implies that you can’t think for yourself. Lighten up, man.

      Peter is evolving fine as of this first episode, he does seem to be going through an arc that is quite unlike the others he’s gone through. He also seems worlds more confident in his abilities. Claire is indeed being an idiot. Parkman’s whole Sylar thing is pretty nice, it gives Quinto a chance to show off his acting; I can see this lending a sense of purpose to Parkman as Sylar’s only means of becoming whole again. I actually began to like Tracy more in this episode as well, which was surprising; I HATED her previously.

      • Angelo

        Who is stating an opinion not him he said Parkmen promised his wife he made no promise to her. And as for paraphrazing i did that as for why he left the show I can’t State an opinion for why he left the show I gave facts to why he left the show look up Hollywood Insider search Bryan Fuller there it is. How can you say that about Parkmen being cool. See your problem is your equating what happened with Sylar now to last year….I’m saying the whole thing of Parkmen doing that was dumb they needed to have an ending with Nathan or Syler. End one or both for good. Don’t keep stringing everyone around.I Prefer Nathan, but None the less. End it. There are to many open Story lines in this Tv Show that need to come together

      • Anonymous

        Parkmen as a character is suffering from what he he did to another human being even one as evil as Sylar and it is bothering him that much we can see. The fact that his wife said to him that he said he would not use his powers anymore and is on board with that plan shows that he made a promise … maybe you are right and it was to himself and not his wife but either way she knows about the whole not using his powers this and is on board with it. Matt is a good guy and i still say he used his powers to send that guy away rather then read his wifes mind because if he read her mind he would feel guilty. I love what they are doing with Matt and think it is very interesting.

      • Anonymous

        you guys do relize that its a tv show just chill, and watch the show

      • Anonymous

        Parkmen as a character is suffering from what he he did to another human being even one as evil as Sylar and it is bothering him that much we can see. The fact that his wife said to him that he said he would not use his powers anymore and is on board with that plan shows that he made a promise … maybe you are right and it was to himself and not his wife but either way she knows about the whole not using his powers this and is on board with it. Matt is a good guy and i still say he used his powers to send that guy away rather then read his wifes mind because if he read her mind he would feel guilty. I love what they are doing with Matt and think it is very interesting.

      • Anonymous

        Parkmen as a character is suffering from what he he did to another human being even one as evil as Sylar and it is bothering him that much we can see. The fact that his wife said to him that he said he would not use his powers anymore and is on board with that plan shows that he made a promise … maybe you are right and it was to himself and not his wife but either way she knows about the whole not using his powers this and is on board with it. Matt is a good guy and i still say he used his powers to send that guy away rather then read his wifes mind because if he read her mind he would feel guilty. I love what they are doing with Matt and think it is very interesting.

  • navygater

    see i would have to say the same thing about you my silly little friend… your points are all very weak and you just want to complain i am done with you and your simple minded point of view.

  • Name

    I find you calling him 'brain dead' rather hilarious considering your spelling of the word COLLEGE, add to that the irony of your first post stating how you had been to COLLEGE. Did they not have a COLLEGE sign where you studied?

  • Angelo

    My points are weak? Is that all you can say…..LMFAO. My points are just correcting your Non-factuall Statements of what went on in the Lastnight's Episode.So if my points are weak,Actuall you are saying your Retoricle coments are weak. And Everything i said is Paraphrazing what Brian Fuller said.( He's the main writter for Season 1 if you didn't know that). How old are you 15-16 cause you seem to be out of your League in this discussion. “Simple minded point of View” , you have not offered up anything that was correct in your statement uptop. You can't even make an arguement because what i said is what brian fuller said, why he left. Navygater watch the show again pay attention and ask yourself would I do that if i was in there position. This is what not just me but looking over these post over 4 yrs have said. They are as you would say “Simple Minded”. This Season has potential but if history repeats it's self as it has done 2 seasons in the past is, Start Slow, make no real charecter persona seem realistic

  • Anonymous

    I guess………
    This premiere had just one awesume moment …well…..i liked it….
    When peter and that fast moving guy were fighting…that scene was awesume…..

    Other than that……..the show is losing its main story…….
    they had mentioned time and again…that they will be telling about the helix symbol……
    that story just got lost………

    they are getting too wayward……..too much mixed up…i wonder how they will connect the dots later on……..

    But i like the series…it has a good background score…..and nice words……which are appealing if u pay attention to it…….

    And trully in real life…….i believe an evolution is on the cards…….as predicted by many scientists..that….arnd this 21st century the next step of evolution will take place…….
    so…..whu knws.hw many X-men and heroes are already present among us……..

  • Angelo

    Read the previous post of his that's how he spells it Dipstick I was pointing it out earlier but he swore that was the right spelling so I went with it thus calling him brain dead in Previous post. When you are calling someone out learn the facts Dip Sh**

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