i totally agree with Phoenix....... i'm thinking i don't really care about the next episodes anymore with elle gone.... :(
i hope that her death was part and parcel of some stupid tagent the writers are going on and that she will come back...
i mean i haven't heard of and kristen bell roles comming up... surely they want to keep her around as her populartiy was enough to secure a spot in season 3... wtf.

Does anyone know if Elle is really dead?
I've never complained about the direction the show is going in.
But if Elle is really dead i'm seriously going to think twice before I watch this show again.

I still watch heroes but I have to stay that the show has lost it's spark. I was always very exited about the next episode. But know...

Doen't get me wrong I still enjoy the show but something is off about it now. And now that Elle is dead( she might not be, you never know who will rise again in this show) my dislike of the show is on the rise.

But I'll keep on watching. Hopefully the show will take a turn and prove me wrong.

I think that if peter will get his scar in this timeline he keeps it as a reminder to a lesson he learns in the future.
Maybe a fight with hiro
Or there's somebody who uses his powers to physically cut the world in two(like in the painting of the african dude) and peter has the power to absorb that damage resulting in a scar.

regarding adam;
I still don't believe it makes sense he turned to dust just because arthur took away his ability arthur gave it an extra touch just like with hiro.. otherwise it would mean that peter was mangled all over claire lost a toe etc etc. ....

Elle.. snif... (tear).. :(

Attempting to explain a show based around superheroes using logic...THIS INFURIATES ME!!!

Yeah, I was totally thinking that, he\'s never been any good with knowing he has his powers. But the part that I didn\'t understand was this: How did both Nathan and Baron Samedi have their powers with the Haitian standing only a few feet away? I am in need of some clarification. Otherwise, a great episode.

1) The Haitan has the ability to choose who he wants to switch their powers on, and who he wants to switch off
2) There was no evidence that Nathan had his ability and Samedi didnt, because at the only time it seemed Samedi didnt have his abilities, Nathan was lying on the floor, so the question really shouldnt come up.
3) I am sexy

Peter could very well have obtained his powers again after the cliff. Perhaps he didn't know they were back and didn't try and use them. But more importantly, he was with the Haitain the entire time and could not have used them even if he wanted to.

Hey, did anyone notice in that episode when they went back in time that Arthur DIDN'T have the power he was now? He couldn't take peoples abilities, he could make you forget stuff and leave scars in your brain, but he wasn't running around stealing peoples powers. I'm not sure I'm understanding where he got his super ability. If his initial ability had to do with brain/memory manipulation, why is he a power thief now?

here is a random thought that the writers could have used...ready...
adam is 400 yrs old and he founded the company. theres things he new that could have been very informative and plus it says in the graphic novel that his last name use to be sanders. but the writers messed that one up already. and he could also be the father grandfather greatgrandfather to most huhuh all of our heros. and there is more to the kensei story and all his other alias's how he got to were he is/was they wasted a very good story line he shoulda been the ultimate bad guy next to arthur

For everybody who keeps asking why sylar killed elle, i think sylar founds out that maybe elle will take her revenge to sylar because sylar killed her father, or sylar is back for being a bad ass remember he told elle before he killed her that the changed that happened to him was only a temporary, after the eclipse he is back bad ass again.

For those people who always keep writing a bad comment about heroes PLEASE if you have nothing good to tell about heroes just dont watch it. You keep saying that this season is very bad then why are still keep watching and waiting for the next episode. SO PLEASE, just give credit to the writers for bringing up this tv series. Just appreciate what the heroes have and you may just suggest for other ideas you have maybe the writers could get some ideas from you. PEACE!!!

Did Claire died? Yes
And if she died, what happened to the catalyst thats been hidden to her blood or body.
I heard from the tv series that if the holder of the catalyst dies the catalyst also dies. i just dont remember who told that line. That is why when HRG known that claire died his face looks terrible because maybe he thinks that the catalyst inside her dies along with her..

no catalist, hrg was thinking if claire died and return to life so could sylar and that means they aren't safe at home

this was a kick ass episode next episode theyre talking about giving a platoon of soldiers powers thats gonna be cool hence the last episode war. not sure if they are actually gonna give the soldiers powers but thats the plan should be a really good episode as well.I think Nathen is an idiot for agreeing with his father and going to pinehurst. I hope Nathen realizes his father tried to kill him and I also want angela up and walking around again to confront arthur again.

that he is her son and then provide him with an ability to determine if that this was true or not? it just does make any sense. by deceiving sylar angela knows fully well that it could lead to facing his wrath. plus arthur also acknowledges sylar as his son. the only way sylar isn't their is if both angela and arthur are lying about the same thing at the same time. why would they both be doing this? what use does arthur want with sylar? im pretty sure if it came down to a one on one fight with arthur sylar would be the one to lose. so why help sylar someone who would kill him if the opportunity ever presented itself? IMO there is no other reason than he is indeed their son.

sorry but the whole clair being sylar's baby mama is just garbage. i understand that this is heroes and anything is possible, but let me assure you all it aint going to happen. the guy has tormented her since season 1 there is just no way. yes, elle and sylar had a similar situation, but the clair - sylar relationship would be full of hate from only one side, claire's. also in the exposed future clair admits that sylar is her uncle when she says that she just killed one uncle (peter) and now she has to kill another one (sylar). HRG is probably messing with sylar's head since he has gotten to understand how his mind works. he knows that sylar has issues with being accepted by his parents and he is using that information to mess with him. call me crazy, but i don't see HRG spilling his gust just because sylar is about to kill him or hurt his family. he didn't tell the truth when ted was going to go neucural and kill his whole family. face it HRG is constantly lying and trying to getting into peoples head. also angela petrelli brought a person into sylar's cell in order to "feed him" the ability to see the past of any object/person/thing. why tell him that he is her son and then provide him with an ability to determine if that this was true or not? it just does make any sense. by deceiving sylar angela knows fully well that it could lead to facing his wrath. plus arthur also acknowledges sylar as his son. the only way sylar isn't their is if both angela and arthur are lying about the same thing at the same time. why would they both be doing this? what use does arthur want with sylar? im pretty sure if it came down to a one on one fight with arthur sylar would be the one to lose. so why help sylar someone who would kill him if the opportunity ever presented itself? IMO there is no other reason than he is indeed their son.

umm sorry men, nut in one you are absolutly wrong. when she is saying that shes just killed uncle and must DO IT AGAIN, she was thinking about future and present peter, becouse she was after peter/s

Yet again another atrocious episode. I can't believe someone here is calling it one of the best he's ever seen! In that case, you haven't seen much my friend.

The writers have really messed up Sylar's character, I think they realized that, that's why we are seeing this reset to his old demented villain personality, which suits him the best.

I don't think turning Sylar into a good guy was part of the original plot, I think the producers did this as an afterthought to please Sylar's growing fan base, but that's were they're wrong, the people liked Sylar because he was the perfect villain, he was so effective being the bad guy.

In essence they just threw out 2 seasons worth of story about the Sylar character. He had this uncontrollable thirst for power and recognition and he was capable of doing anything to attain that goal. And yet in season 3, heck throw it all away I just discovered that I want to be a good guy now. Wow sucky storytelling right?

And the fact that this turning into good guy thing doesn't have a pivotal effect in the season ending because he just turned right back to his original personality, proves that this angle is an afterthought, like most of season 3 is.

i have a qeustion. so if the eclipse really take away powers for some time how hiro nakamura stopped time when he traveled to japan in 1671???? this eclipses in show really are wired and not logical etc...

It has never been specified that EVERY single eclipse has any effect on them. So far, out of all eclipses that have been seen, we only know of two that have had any relevance. no evidence supports all eclipses as being important.

For anybody who thinks Elle is coming back.
Nup.
Shes dead. Long gone.
Shes been signed up as a "special guest" for the entire season 3, and according to the cast line ups for the next episodes, shes not signed up. Anybody notice that for this season she was being written-off as a special guest, not part of the cast. She had plans to leave long ago.
So shes definitely gone people lol.
Also, shes mentioned that she wants to leave heroes for either another tv show or to film another movie (my memory does not serve me well).