November 30th, 2008
Discussion Thread: Heroes Season 3 Episode 11 (3.11) The Eclipse Part 2
The Petrelli boys are stuck in the jungles of Haiti with the Haitian, which is not such a bad person to be stuck in a country with when, you know, it’s his country and he’s named after it and all. Meanwhile, back in the good ol USA, Ando attempts to help Hiro recover his memories with the help of a comic book geek, we finally discover Daphne’s dreaded secret, and HRG goes a-huntin’ for himself some heroes. Lucky for our bespectacled killer, the people he’s hunting happens to have lost their powers thanks to the eclipse. Here, then, is your official discussion thread for the second part of Heroes’ Season 3 two-parter, “The Eclipse”.
THE HEROES CONTINUE TO DISCOVER THEIR TRUE ABILITIES UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE ECLIPSE
The eclipse continues to impact the Heroes’ abilities as Elle (Kristen Bell) and Sylar (Zachary Quinto) face off against a vengeful H.R.G. (Jack Coleman) while Claire (Hayden Panettiere) struggles to survive. In Haiti, Peter and Nathan (Milo Ventimiglia and Adrian Pasdar) join forces with the Haitian (Jimmy Jean-Louis) to battle the Haitian’s brother, Baron Samedi (guest star Demetrius Grosse), and Nathan comes to a shocking decision. In the meantime, Ando (James Kyson Lee), Sam (guest star Seth Green) and Frack (guest star Breckin Meyer) work hard to get Hiro’s (Masi Oka) memory back with the help of the “9th Wonders” comic books at a local comic bookstore.
Brea Grant and Robert Forster guest stars.
Complete Episode 3.11 Preview, including Promo images and Videos
Heroes Forum Discussion Thread
FIRST POST. CANT FOR EPISODE!!!
can’t wait :$
The impression I am getting is this is supposed to show us what these folks can do without super powers.
which is virtually nothing because peter cries about is lost powers to much and this show suck even worse now
I don’t see peter crying about losing his powers. In fact I see him doing great things inspite of losing his powers, constantly wanting to be of use, and still a hero.
heroes is getting worse!!.. i need some major villain clash!!
am i the only one who thinks them loosing powers is brilliant. (of course i want them back soon) i find it interesting to see what they really can do or how they react. with powers the majority of heroes moan about wanting to be normal. now they are who still wants that FEW thats who. best few episodes this season IMO
I agree with you, them losing their powers is brilliant. I’m looking forward to everyone getting their powers back, but I’m really liking seeing how they react without them.
it’s really funny seeing sylar do his finger move to use his telekinesis minus the telekinesis hahaha, and also matt looks ridiculous staring daphne’s dad without his mind reading abilities. hahaha the whole powerless-eclipse thing is very brilliant, brings out the heroes/villains sense of humor. heheheheheh
I love Heroes -’Villains’ but…
Peter not having abilities is just wrong. He is THE most poweful, but doesn’t have abilities anymore. I hoping like hell he gets them back soon!
I’m thinking that if he had his abilities no-one could live with him, therefore in order to have the season the way it is and to have Villains able to be Villains in this capacity, there would have to be NO Peter as he would solve the problems. If he kept his abilities, there would be no villains as they are! Future seasons may be different as there may be a way people can cretae the effects of the Hatian’s ability in blocking Peter’s abilities in close proximity. Remember the first episode when we see future ‘All Powerful’ Peter running away. Why was he running when he could go invisible, fly etc etc… Also, in the future Daphne was scarred of him, why? Had he met her before? If so, that would be another ability he could call on to get away i.e. no need to be running as he was.
I’m thinking it must be Mohinder that injects Peter to give him his original Power back, or it re-ignites that ability which in turn remembers all other aquired abilities. So, Arthur can take people’s abilities but cannot alter the DNA completely, he must just freeze it…? Then with the formula, it ignites the DNA again.
Hope that makes sense…
Peter is too much of a dumbass to “fix” everything. most of the time he does not fully understand all the powers he has, let alone how to use most of them. He also is very gullible and has on numerous occasions been the one to nearly destroy everything (he was the exploding man, he almost led Adam to releasing the virus, he came back and helped start the current timeline). Peter not having powers is a good thing. It allows him to maybe realize how dumb and trusting he can be and that he needs to become a bit more wiser and distrustful. If he does get his absorbing power back, maybe if he gets wiser he will be the most powerful. But if he gets that power back and continues to remain dumb, well that does not make him the most powerful. On the contrary, it practically makes him the most dangerous.
I think Nathan was adopted it was said that he did not have natural abilities but was given and injected with the artificial power. Author takes power by transferring from one to him, Sylar takes by gutting their brains out, and Peter just absorbs… See the blood line here… I think Nathan’s shock decision is to disown the Petrelli Family cause he found out that he was adopted… hehe
Peter had to lose his powers in order to get rid of his “sickness”. Papa Petrelli in effect saved him from Sylars power. As for the direction of the show. LOVE IT. Can’t get enough of those Heroes, or Villians for that matter!
I’ve got a question. If the eclipse blocks powers, how was Adam Monroe able to live for as long as he did? Because when Arthur took his power he turned straight to dust.
I WAS JUST SAYING THIS VERY SAME THING THE OTHER DAY! I HOPE THEY MAKE A POINT OF TELLING US HOW THIS ECLIPSE IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHERS THAT HAVE HAPPEND IN THE PAST.
i’m thinkin dat maybe wen Arthur took Adams power, hiz age caught up w/him.
lol maybe he turns to dust and after the eclipse is gone the dust formes back into him HAHA!!!
I was wondering how Adam survived the other eclipses but what you said coud be true, I never thought about it like that.
I agree that this TEMPORARY no powers thing is very exciting. A lot of characters have been complaining about how horrible it is without them and now they have to find a way to live without them. Its brilliant. Claire for example has been complaing all season about how horrible it is to not feel pain…i bet shes regreting that now. And the Daphne scene last ep. was crazy cool. Nathan has also had his share of wishing he did not have powers and now im sure he wants them back too.
well soulless to answer your questioin that would be a writer mistake. other wise arthure would have known exactly what the eclipse did and adam as well. cause there powers would have turned on and off for the last 45 years arthure 400 for adam/kensei. thats why the first seven episodes rocked even when peter lost his powers. but as soon as they did the whole eclipse thing is were it really went bad real bad. if they said that claire thing in her brain can give powers to any body and arthur can take it and thats as far is they went that would have been beautifull no need for an eclipse to f*** everything up. there i just saved season 3..hahaa no if only i could go back in time
lol wheres hiro
Perhaps the eclipse is not responsible for the loss of their powers. Maybe it is something more than that. What king genesis said makes sense, aurthur and adam would have known that the eclipse would take away powers. So, instead of ruling it as a “writers mistake”, I am ruling it as “maybe it’s not the eclispe”. Call it wishful thinking, but i would like to think that there is more to this power loss than just the eclipse.
Maybe the eclipse is coinciding with another global event?
Like The Credit Crunch?
I’ve seen a couple theories that this eclipse is different…don’t know but maybe it is different, and maybe it is paired with something else, unknown to us as of now. Sounds like it could be…I am sure they will explain it to us in the upcoming episodes.
I think that because everyone has lost their powers during the eclipse when they get their powers back peter wqill get his powers back with
them. Or because Arthur Petrelli’s power leaves scars peter might get injected with claire’s blood and her power will ‘heal the scars’ and he will regain his power and Claire and when he goes to face his father he will regain all of his previous abilities because he will sap them off of him and then he will kick everyone’s ass because he is too powerful.
The rumor is that a blonde will die permanently b4 the end of volume 3. Myguess is elle, tracey, or daphne. I seriously doubt it will b claire. Just watch she will die and then come back to life once the eclipse ends in this episode
Hey Anne, way to “guess” – you just list ALL the blonde “heroes” (minus Meredith) and you have a three out of four chance of being right no matter who actually dies.
Example: The rumor is that Team A and Team B are playing a game of basketball this weekened. My “guess” is that the winner will be Team A or Team B, but definitely not Team F. Wow. Look at me go. I win the game of Heroes.
I seriously think this is awesome. And im very, very excited to see how this all evolves and all. And personally, i can’t wait for the last episode ” War ” sounds AWESOME !
damn! Elle is hot.
I agree