A Major Hero Dies in the First 3 Minutes of Heroes Season 3…
By Sam | June 9, 2008 (8:21 pm)
Kristin over at E! Online has once again offered up a very intriguing Heroes Season 3 rumor that involves two of the show’s main characters, who also happen to be the show’s most popular characters. So in that respect, it sort of makes sense to offer up something very shocking involving the two of them to really give Heroes Season 3 a major kick in the rear on its return to the airwaves after such a long hiatus. Needless to say, given the nature of the clues Kristin offers up, if this turns out to be true, it would qualify as a MAJOR SPOILER, so read on at your own risk.
Ready? Let’s get to it below.
From Kristin at E! Online:
Shannon in Omaha, Neb.: It’s been forever since we’ve heard new scoop about Heroes. Please oblige!
Gee, well, I don’t have much to tell, other than the fact that in the first three minutes one of the lead heroes is going to bust a cap off at one of the other lead heroes. And oh yeah, the guy she pulls the trigger on just might be the guy she’s playing tonsil hockey with in real life. She also tells him (on cam), “I always loved you.” Whaaa?! Figured it out? I know you have, so discuss in the comments below! Oh, and even more shocking? We’re gonna see Claire-bear with dark hair and this also involves a shift in time. So very Lostalicious, no?
From the clues Kristin offers up, it sounds like Claire is the shooter, and the one she’s shot is none other than Peter. (Besides the two being the show’s main characters, they’re also dating in real life.) Kristin also mentions a “shift in time”, which probably means a brunette Claire shoots Peter sometime in the future. If all that turns out to be true, it’s certainly a great way to kick off a new season!
What do you think?
Update: 6/11/08
Kristin over at E! Online has since added these tidbits:
FYI, I’m hearing good things about the larger picture on Heroes this season: In particular, the Bennets and Petrellis are staying front and center, and they are totally up in each other’s bidness—just the way we like them.
Someone somewhere is definitely paying attention to the fans, and the resulting twists are so good it’s killing me not to talk about them.
Suffice it to say, there will be some shocking alliances and the appearance of at least one long-lost relative. Any guesses on which family member makes a surprise return?
The surprise return she’s hinting at is probably Meredith Gordon, Claire’s biological mother, who was reported to be making a return appearance on the show a while back.
uh yeah, definitely!!! that would be so frickin awesome. why does claire shoot peter? and so many other things to be brought up if this is true, can’t wait!
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Things are not always what they seem…
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I love time travel and how heroes displays the nightmare future, hopefully season 3 will blow us away. What kind of world would it be without Peter Petrelli?
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let’s not forget that sylar has his powers back so that’s mean he have the candice power so that can be him tryin to be peter but claire will know it and shoot him
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WOW , thats so smart , and could be true if this is true
good theorie !
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One.) It’s been stated that Sylar does NOT have Candice’s ability. 2.) But then, if Claire knew it was Sylar, and he had that ability, why would she say, “I always loved you.”?
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Hey i thought peter could regenerate…..can you kill him with a bullet? i dont think so
oh and am dying to see sylar back in action……..he needs to open some more skullssssssss
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i think you can if you shoot his head off or something
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claire turns into a villain in the future! hence the reason she is turning mad against the father when they tell them she has to move and that he is still working for the company!!
she could turn into a villain to get back at her dad so she must b in the main story plot!! especially if she shoots peter, but that meens in a future ep if she dont shoot peter in season 3, she will inded shoot peter
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it said that she SHOOTS him, not that she kills him. He could still survive (unless she shot him in the head)
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Even if she shot him in the head, he’d live if the bullet was removed.
Remember, Sylar sent a shard of glass into the back of Pete’s head, and the dude was “deader than a doornail,” as me old pappy used to say. But once it was pulled out, he started walking around like nothing had happened.
I’m not worried either way. They’ve made Peter invincible (which could prove more problematic than if he weren’t…)
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Well I guess one of them is gonna be Sylar in disguise.
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First if she is kissing peter…
EWWWW..Incest.
Unless they are in West Virginia..GIGGLES
But anyways.
That would be a koo story plot
Maybe she shot peter because of his mother’s
And her Grandmother’s New Association with the COMPANY
We all know how peter is with FAMILY!
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i think it will be sylar disgised as claire because in the future he does kill candice which gives him power to be anybody
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Well, if claire shoots Peter, he regenerates and all is well.
But, in the back of the head I’m guessing.
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You guys are all being very silly… and by silly I mean stupid.
1. Candice is dead and Sylar does not have her powers. Accept it. He killed her, couldn’t get her power because he didn’t have his own power at the time. Sylar with no power = Sylar not getting new powers.
I can already here this one coming so I’ll say it now: He can’t get Candice’s power retroactively, mainly because she’d dead and her brain is a rotten glob of decay. Also, there is no evidence to suggest that Sylar can kill someone and then months later acquire their power: He either gets the power or he doesn’t. Now please, no more speculation about Candice unless you actually see her back on the screen (which is unlikely).
2. HRG took a bullet through the eye (hence, in the head) and the Adam/Claire blood healed the whole damn thing. So, how much good do you think it would do to shoot Peter in the head? Claire is aware of this. My thought is that we don’t have enough information about this supposed shooting to speculate.
I mean, really, Heroes always acts like something huge is going to happen, but then they find a way to fix it or undo it, so nothing ends up changing in a major way. Examples: Nathan got shot, but he’s coming back. Nikki got blown up, but she’s coming back (in some form or another). HRG died, but is now alive (he left the company but is back with the company). Sylar lost his powers but now he’s got them back. Hiro thought he was the ***t, but discovered he’s still a dork and went back to working for his father.
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on your second point: when sylar threw a huge piece of glass through Peter’s head, it killed him! so if a bullet injures that part again, i guess he will be dead again, unless someone removes the bullet later.
also HRG does not have a power.
i agree with you on the huge thing and then nothing happening after. i think the virus story should have been made longer and more difficult to collect and destroy.
anyway i still think claire adam and peter CAN be killed, no one can really be immortal.
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More examples:
Nikki had no control over her alter ego(s), then she did, now she doesn’t (assuming all the rumors are true) [so, did anything really happen--maybe, a new alter ego would be really f'n sweet]
NYC was going to be blown to pieces, but then a lame battle in the plaza made safe again [nothing happened]
Issac’s comic supposedly showed that Hiro how to stop Sylar, but stabbing him didn’t actually kill him; he isn’t “stopped” [nothing happened]
The shanti virus was supposed to destroy the world, but now it looks like it wont… [nothing happened
Adam is free after decades locked up, Adam is going to cause chaos... oh wait, he's trapped in a coffin now [nothing happened]
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It doesn’t make sense for Peter to die in the beginning because there have been updates about what he will be doing in season three. Also the quote just says that he will get shot, it says nothing about him dieing. I’m pretty sure that Peter will just get shot and then heal. However if it had to be someone who dies it makes sense for Noah or Suresh because there isn’t much information about them for season three.
Still, I think there is more to this than the first glance: “The Butterfly Effect” and “… involves a shift in time.”
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To Moses: You are right about Sylar when he killed Candice, but just because he didn’t have his ability at the time doesn’t mean that Sylar didn’t remember how to do something that his ability ’showed’ him how to do. For example: lets say that you have a talent for running. Then lets say that you have a heart attack or something and if you run after that you’ll probably die. However you’ll still remember how to run, so instead you can jog or walk fast. This is the case for Sylar then I think. He took so many abilities that he remembered how to do it without his ability.
As for getting shot in head, I think that it is safe to assume that if you shoot Claire, Peter, or Adam in their head they will die, but if you give their blood to somebody else then they will heal no matter what their injury is. Well, I suppose that different when there’s nothing left but a hand or something, so I guess that is debatable.
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I think you’re wrong on the first paragraph.
The powers they have are not talents. And the fact that Sylar knows “how things works” is not a talent. It is a power. When he doesn’t have that power, he doesn’t know how things work. So, when he killed Candace, he couldn’t take her power because he didn’t know how her brain worked.
Lets take the Haitian for example. He knows how to take the memories out of others’ heads. But he can’t do it when he is infected. It is the same for Molly Walker. She knows how to find other people but she can’t do it when she is infected. Just like them, Sylar doesn’t know how things work if he doesn’t have that power.
And about Claire, Peter and Adam. They can only be killed if the back of their head is damaged. And they can only heal someone if the back of their head is fine. If it was not true. Then you would be able to cut a person in two and give them both some blood and you would have 2 of the same person. Since Claire was able to regenerate her finger, we can say that you only need the back of her head to have a full Claire. You could cut her head off and she would grow a new body.
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It says Claire shoots Peter sometime in the future, maybe Peter is gonna go Nuclear again. Remember Peter asking claire to shoot him because she was the only one to get close to him. Maybe she can shoot him dead, but in the present he wont be dead yet so we’ll still have Peter for a whole season to see if they can change this future event from happening?
I so cant wait for season 3 to start
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hey what if Nathan is not Claire’s father? what if Meredith has come back bec of this?? i mean on the show too peter and claire make a cute couple! and it would be soo cool if something like this happened!
in the future maybe claire is a villain, that would explain the time shift and the hair colour change.
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moses - someone here is riding a high horse…
coz you DEFINITELY do not have any facts/evidences that Sylar doesnt have Candices ability…
i agree with Ravenclaw!!!!…he cannot forget how to do that!..and by the way when he killed Darek there was ticking sound, and they showed dareks head…which is i think suggests that Sylar was using his Intuitive Aptitude…and (if you remember) it was before Sylar got his powers back by injecting Claires blood.
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The ticking sound is just a background music. It has nothing to do with the story. There was that ticking sound when Sylar got his powers back. But there was no brain lying around there at that time. And there was that ticking sound many other times when Sylar didn’t use his powers. And that ticking sound is of a watch or a clock. What does a watch or a clock has to do with Intuitive Aptitude. When Sylar killed Darek, he didn’t know he had a virus. He just thought that he had lost all his powers and was not able to gain more.
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PrincessD, i get what ur saying, and it weould be cool if that happened. but this isn’t a soap so it probably wont. plus they already used this plotline about not knowing who her dad is and stuff. plus, i like them as father and daughter.
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sylar gets his powers back at the end of season 2 with clairs blood that he stole from DR Suresh
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sylar gets his powers back at the end of season 2 with clairs blood that he stole from DR Suresh
haha i just spoilt the story for you
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The one common thing here is that HEROS is the best entertainment coming from a box that shows you animated pictures with sound. This show is so good, it cause people speculate about what going to happen next and makes want the following Monday to hurry up and get here already.
Any talks of HEROS the movie????? I wouldn’t mind seeing Claire Rated R and Hiro cursing with his accent.
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All i can say is i cant wait for season 3 but i do agree with people that the endings are always kinda anti climax, all the way through the series i think it is fanastic its jst the endings of the seasons i think need to be bit more of a cliff hanger, the fight in the plaza was rubbish. Apart from that heroes is one of the best tv shows out there, it always keeps people guessing.
I would love it if they made a heroes movie.
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clair should develope her mom’s ability for fire!!!! only makes sense, as parkmans father explained to him his ability will grow like his, so clairs ability should grow like her mom’s!!! peter will defently run into clairs mom somewhere along the story line, as clair will want her mom to meet her uncle, will have to wait and see. peter needs to hook up with nickie now there would be a awsome two some.
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firstly the comic was never ’supposedly’ showing hiro how to stop sylar, that was only hiro’s interpretation of the situation.
secondly, the shanti virus may not have been destroyed, after that significant moment where after zapping the vile, the powder remaining seeps into peters hand.
and last of all isnt the most important question we shuld be asking, wat is sylars secret power? when he kills the woman with the super hearing she asks him how come she didnt hear his footsteps and he says ‘thats because there werent any’ does anyone have any ideas on wat power gave sylar the ability to creep up on that woman, i think we can rule out levititation, as it is a form of flight. also we can rule out him being able to manipulate time like hiro as he wuld have used that ability many times before. also the time with peter and claire at the school where he was at the bottom of the stairs and then at the top instantly. so anyone have any ideas?
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I recall a few folks trying to use those two instances you mentioned as proof Sylar had killed Claude but I pointed out that Claude was still very much alive during both those occasions as Claude met Peter AFTER the incident at Claire’s Homecoming and was knocking some sense into Peter about the time of the second (literally). The theory we came up with is that Sylar must have killed someone with a variant of super speed that enables him to move so fast and so lightly that it’s almost instantaneous.
And as for someone getting killed, at the start of season 3, I don’t really wanna see anyone die, but please, not Claude :(. I’d rather he stay safely in hiding than show up only to be slain.
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Ashhh…..whatever, i have my opinion - you have yours. We will see who is right later…
There are 4 Sylars victims with unknown powers - after Brian Davis -
Unnamed male and female (bennet showed their pics to Eden)…then victim from Barstow (well, it could be someone from the pics though)..then David (victim from GN)…Oh, and we dont know James Walkers ability….
well, someone among them had cryogenesis….
then only my guesses - Levitation (aaron - i agree)..
then - Shadow walking/Hiding in a plane sight/Dynamic camouflage - well, something that he used in Kirby Plaza…
and i think maybe Survivability - in Primatech cell he did smth. that may be called this way…plus - the victim from Barstow survived long enough to say Sylars name (Audrey Hanson - Dont look back) - but i dont know whether he took the ability if the victim survied some time after his attempt…
and i think he has Candices ability….
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dude if you had telekinisis you could make yourelf hover which sylar does, but anyways wasnt the woman with super hearing listening to her rap music which to her drowns out her hearing, when sylar snook up on her? I also agree with moses about the whole Candice ability thing sylar didnt take her ability as his ability is to take abilites well to see how things work which relates to it directly, but Im not so sure shes dead it would be a good twist if she made it appear to him that she was dead like playing possum not saying it will happen just saying it would be cool.
like havnt you noticed that the whole show is about balnce?
Peter is a good guy who gains abilites with no force necessary and Sylar is his oppisite a bag guy who takes powers by force
Adam is immortal and a bad guy yet Hiro is a good guy and can find him in any time period he wants
if sylar could steal abilites with out his inital powers it wouldnt be balanced
and for those who keep refering back to the future episode stop.. that future has been changed yes somethings might turn out similar like peter being all badass but thats because something else happenes to make it that way but that future ceases to exist so stop saying “this will happen because remember the future episode blah blah blah”
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whether or not that girl had the rap music on he still said that there werent any footsteps, and the levitation thing wuldnt be original or exciting, like the rest of the show has been. i think that in this new villains episode sylar will unleash the full fury of his power and we may get to deiscover wat this ability is. and walkers ability is to fly isnt it?
if we dont see wat the power is soon then it is my guess that the writers coudlnt come up with anything and are hoping that we will forget lol
also wat was the kirby plaza incident? and i also think that sylar cant possibly have candice’s ability as he didnt have his at the time of killing her. so how wuld u guys explain how peters ability works?
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exactly..Peters powers is to mimic powers but later as powers grow his powers was to mimic and store them for later use i dont think sylars original power will grow because of all the other stolen powers
but maybe it will and maybe eventually he wont have to cut people to aquire new powers oh and sylar can fly think back to first time you saw him when he went after molly walker, matt shot him a few times he “spat out” the bullets and then flew up thru the ceiling either that or it was the telekinisis just like how jean grey and Psylocke can fly
Sylars known powers:
See how things work, Telekinisis, Super Hearing, Turning things to liquid, nuclear abilities, and somehow he wasnt killed by bullets which is either healing or somesort of armor i say this because he fell over then got up and the bullets were still in him then they fell to the ground
hopfully we find out every single one and we see him use them
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kirby plaza incident was the last episode of the first season the showdown at kirby plaza that was where peter was supposed to go nuclear..well he did but not at the plaza but well above it thanx to nathen and hiro stabbed sylar and then teleported himself back to fuedal japan yada yada yada…
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oh i forgot cryokenisis in sylars known powers oops
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i also wanted to say that i bet its nathen that dies in the first 3 minutes umm he was shot the last time we saw himbut we all no theres healing blood out there, and what if peters blood not only heals but tranfers his mimic abilities temporarily as well that would be kinda cool my new theory to who shot nathen is that it was future peter he did it to stop a superhuman holocaust in the futureand future peter knows about the healing blood andhe nows that past peter will find out about it and save nathen it makes sence to me
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dude - i know….but dont try to convince someone, its impossible- ive tried, if “S” thinks that Sylar has Illusions and “F” disagree - its forever!…and there is nothing to do with it. Im in general - fans are different. there are 1000000 of variations on the subject.
as for Kirby - i meant the way Sylar appeared. From nowhere…
i totally agree with you aaron! (except for the Candice)as for Walker - i dont know, some ppl say that its related to Clairvoyance and Mediumship koz of Ida Walker and Molly Walker, but i dont think so.
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when sylar killed derek…first off he killed him with a brick,
second of all he did know he had the virus candice told him when she was taking care of him and he also smashed candice with a mug to the head…now if you were gonna go after someones brain would you risk damaging it by smashing there heads? no you wouldnt, whcih would suggest that sylar knew he could not take her power, his ability to see how things works alows him to incorparate his victoms abilites what dont you people understandas to my previous statement about sylars known abilites i just remembered that when mohinder first broke into sylars apartment there were all kinds of brians in jars suggesting he could have more abilities then we have seen or some of them were practice victoms oh i also forgot that he has charlies advance learning ability as well since he killed her to
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and you forgot - precognition and enhanced memory…(just saying)
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i may have got derek confused with the guy who stole clairs car sorry..
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well, he also smashed Brian Davises brain then (and took the ability)….when he killed Candice he said - This is how you work and later he tried to use her power….which i think suggests that he took the ability but virus hindered him to use it at that time…
but whatever - im not gonna to argue about it….i dont really care about who is agree and who is not….
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the enhanced memory is the advanced learning from charlie that i did mention but you are right i did forget the ability to paint the future which he got from issac
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Sylar is rescued by Candice Wilmer, who uses her powers of illusion to make Sylar disappear. After undergoing eight surgeries, he eventually awakes and realizes that he cannot use his powers. Though Candice promises that they will come back eventually, he kills her and attempts to absorb her power in order to start over. After realizing that it also doesn’t work,
thats from wikipedia and ive never known wikidpedia to be wrong before
i gess we’lll just have to see if he gained her power or not but i dont think so if he did then he would have taken whats her faces brother ability to stop that black eye virus thing to but i dont think so
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Even if Sylar couldn’t steal Candice’s ability he still cut open her brain and did what ever does to them to steal their talents, so Sylar’s guess is as good as ours to this question.
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I have a question Peter and Sylar got close well they faught at clairs highschool prom or dance or whatever so then peter should have absorbed sylars advanced perception or whatever its called right?
so if this is true couldnt peter look into a mirror and train himself to all his absorbed abilites? and he shouldhave absorbed the haitians abilities also cuz they were pretty close to each other unless peter has to touch the person hmmm whatya think?
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its stated while sylar is held by hrg that the only power that seems to surface of syalar’s is telekinesis
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Great discussions…. but everyone realizes its a serie and “they” can do (almost) everything to make things the way they want.
and all we know now is just a bunch of rumours.
well shooting a guy that explodes as a star should really have big problems with a bullet. maybe sylar disguises himself as Peter and gets shot. maybe a new figure looks like peter and get shot by someone looking like sylar…
i guess it really does not matter since we are all going to watch what will actually happen.
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Slightly OT I’m noticing a lag when I try to post things here. Are we screening comments now?
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Future Peter and Claire come to the past for opposite purposes, this Peter, who is evil, plots to kill his brother Nathan. Claire, on the other hand, is trying to save her father’s life. Claire contacts Nathan before the press conference and warns him what’s gonna happen, and he wears a vest as protection. After Peter shoots Nathan and he walks off, Claire confronts him, and after some dialogue shoots at him.
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one problem with your vest thoery huge splats of blood come out of nathen when he is shot i thought of a vest as well till i saw the shooting again
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anyone have thoughts on who angela was talking to on the phone when she says ” you do realize you opened pandoras box” ? it could or could not have to do with the shooting she could have been talking about sometihng totally different but just happend to be watching the conference ive noticed shows will do that alot make it seem like 2 things are connected when they really are not
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hey guys, just a quick post, im new here, In the future AFTER the explosion, we see nikki and peter together at a bar talking about the event at kirby plaza and peter has a big scar down his face, this same scar is going accross peters face when we go into the future in season 3, meaning that something doesnt get stopped. Also, when the haitian gets stabbed in the neck (peter, hiro, future hiro, suresh and matt are there) we see nathan petrelli flying to them coz matt phones him to say his brother is stopping them from getting in, when he gets there he grabs peter through the door and peter says “my brother can’t walk through walls” and he turns back into sylar, meaning he HAS aquired candices powers somehow. BUT as many of you have said if he didnt have his power at the time how did he take hers? lets face it, its highly unlikely that he walked all the way back to the shack he was being held in just to pick up some lunch
so maybe its an error in the writing or maybe as others of you have said, sylar has leaned how to take peoples abilities without his power?
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no no no sorry but in the eclipse q and a they said sylar ddnt get candice’s power so that part of the future is changed and its also changed by the fact that claire is a badass girl with a gun versus dead in five years gone
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yeah when hiro goes back in time from 5 years gone he completely changes the events leading up to that episode and in season 2 we are only four months after the kirby plaza event and the biggest thing is that the 5 years gone episode the explosion had happened which changed a lot of things, what doesn’t make sense tho is that when hiro went forward in time that time would not exist because of when he went back to tell peter to save the cheerleader as soon as that message was recieved that future would be null but then again its a tv show
and a very good one
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when is hiro gonna turn into a badass! in series 1 future hiro goes bck in time to peter on the tube train?? how does this happen?
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WHAT HAPPENS TO WEST AND MATTS DAD AND MONICA. THEY HAVE DONE ALL THE PEOPLE FROM SEASON1 AND LEFT OUT THAT LOT.
I HOPE THAT CLAIRE DONT KILL PETER BUT PETER KILL CLAIRE. SHE ALWAYS SEEMS 2 PLAY THE DAMSEL IN DISTRESS.
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